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Would you want to turn over your computer to a forensics expert to prove your innocence? I would hope that authorities at least would try to build an actual ca

by spurgu 3y ago

Would you want to turn over your computer to a forensics expert to prove your innocence? I would hope that authorities at least would try to build an actual case against you and not just raid your home because of some fraudulent traffic from your IP. I might be too optimistic in that regard.

BLKNSLVR 3y ago
I can vouch for suspected fraudulent traffic being enough for authorities to warrant a raid.
- Forgeties79 3y ago
  I’m guessing you can’t elaborate lol
  - BLKNSLVR 3y ago
    I'd like to write up the details sooner rather than later, and I've got pages of notes I've written, but 1: it makes me angry to think about it 2: I have other, positive things I'd rather do It took them 8 months to return the ~$10k of gear they "stole" from me, and they found nothing. No apology, no explanation of how I was somehow caught up in their data, just "come collect your stuff". Ironically, they traumatized my kids (I don't think they even did any background checks on me - I don't believe they even knew there were kids in the house before they barged in). Luckily my kids are resilient and we can sometimes even joke (bitterly) about it.
    - spurgu 3y ago
      Oh man, that sounds horrible. Was this in the US?
      - BLKNSLVR 3y ago
        Australia, so at least we didn't get guns shoved in our faces. I should also make the point that, with one exception, the officers conducting the raid were polite.
    - Forgeties79 3y ago
      Totally understand and my apologies for prying!
      - BLKNSLVR 3y ago
        All good, I wouldn't have replied if I wasn't up to it. Don't feel bad for asking. I do want to "get it out", and one of the things holding me back is "what's the best way of doing it" (along with "what's not going to invite further negative police attention"). Along with a family member, we've approached our local government representative for advice on how to go about pursuing some kind of action that might help "make the system better" to minimise the incidents of innocent parties being subjected to the violence of the state, but it's mostly been a dead end. But I also don't want it to be what defines the rest of my life either, and pursuing this kind of thing could easily end up eating who I am currently (and I'm quite happy with my current self). I also don't want media attention, really, in any context. Now I'm mostly just writing this to understand my own motivations...
        Forgeties79 3y ago
        > But I also don't want it to be what defines the rest of my life either, and pursuing this kind of thing could easily end up eating who I am currently (and I'm quite happy with my current self). I also don't want media attention, really, in any context. Now I'm mostly just writing this to understand my own motivations... Man I really feel this part, though admittedly for a shorter-lived and much simpler reason so I don’t want you to think that I think I fully get it. My wife and I had two officers walk into our apartment when we were a younger couple. Unannounced, 1 or 2am. Just lights shining around and I jumped up looking for a blunt object. They then announced themselves. Mind you we live in an incredibly gun, friendly state, so if they have done this is somebody else, it is incredibly likely they would’ve had a gun drawn on them, and who knows how it would have gone down. They let themselves in because “the door was unlocked and they were looking for someone.” Mind you to get to our apartment wasn’t a simple thing. You had to walk around a gravel parking lot and up these rear steps. We lived above a restaurant and all that jazz. I didn’t do anything about it after they left. I just kind of wanted to forget the situation and not think about what could have been. Think god I am white and didn’t have a gun on me, I’ll just leave it at that. We didn’t even talk about it until probably 5 or 6 years later. What you wrote above made me better realize why.
lionkor 3y ago
That is NOT how burden of proof works

by spurgu 3y ago

BLKNSLVR 3y ago

I can vouch for suspected fraudulent traffic being enough for authorities to warrant a raid.

Forgeties79 3y ago
I’m guessing you can’t elaborate lol
- BLKNSLVR 3y ago
  I'd like to write up the details sooner rather than later, and I've got pages of notes I've written, but 1: it makes me angry to think about it 2: I have other, positive things I'd rather do It took them 8 months to return the ~$10k of gear they "stole" from me, and they found nothing. No apology, no explanation of how I was somehow caught up in their data, just "come collect your stuff". Ironically, they traumatized my kids (I don't think they even did any background checks on me - I don't believe they even knew there were kids in the house before they barged in). Luckily my kids are resilient and we can sometimes even joke (bitterly) about it.
  - spurgu 3y ago
    Oh man, that sounds horrible. Was this in the US?
    - BLKNSLVR 3y ago
      Australia, so at least we didn't get guns shoved in our faces. I should also make the point that, with one exception, the officers conducting the raid were polite.
  - Forgeties79 3y ago
    Totally understand and my apologies for prying!
    - BLKNSLVR 3y ago
      All good, I wouldn't have replied if I wasn't up to it. Don't feel bad for asking. I do want to "get it out", and one of the things holding me back is "what's the best way of doing it" (along with "what's not going to invite further negative police attention"). Along with a family member, we've approached our local government representative for advice on how to go about pursuing some kind of action that might help "make the system better" to minimise the incidents of innocent parties being subjected to the violence of the state, but it's mostly been a dead end. But I also don't want it to be what defines the rest of my life either, and pursuing this kind of thing could easily end up eating who I am currently (and I'm quite happy with my current self). I also don't want media attention, really, in any context. Now I'm mostly just writing this to understand my own motivations...
      - Forgeties79 3y ago
        > But I also don't want it to be what defines the rest of my life either, and pursuing this kind of thing could easily end up eating who I am currently (and I'm quite happy with my current self). I also don't want media attention, really, in any context. Now I'm mostly just writing this to understand my own motivations... Man I really feel this part, though admittedly for a shorter-lived and much simpler reason so I don’t want you to think that I think I fully get it. My wife and I had two officers walk into our apartment when we were a younger couple. Unannounced, 1 or 2am. Just lights shining around and I jumped up looking for a blunt object. They then announced themselves. Mind you we live in an incredibly gun, friendly state, so if they have done this is somebody else, it is incredibly likely they would’ve had a gun drawn on them, and who knows how it would have gone down. They let themselves in because “the door was unlocked and they were looking for someone.” Mind you to get to our apartment wasn’t a simple thing. You had to walk around a gravel parking lot and up these rear steps. We lived above a restaurant and all that jazz. I didn’t do anything about it after they left. I just kind of wanted to forget the situation and not think about what could have been. Think god I am white and didn’t have a gun on me, I’ll just leave it at that. We didn’t even talk about it until probably 5 or 6 years later. What you wrote above made me better realize why.

lionkor 3y ago

That is NOT how burden of proof works