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Just as much reason to believe it would be lower than higher. There aren't a fixed number of jobs. A talented engineer who comes to America can go on to start u
by mannerheim 3y ago
Just as much reason to believe it would be lower than higher. There aren't a fixed number of jobs. A talented engineer who comes to America can go on to start up his own company (and there are many examples of this occurring), creating many more high-paying jobs for other engineers. A company that fails because they can't hire enough engineers puts the engineers they do have employed out of work.
I don't claim that H1Bs have the effect of increasing pay, but rather that their effect on pay is non-obvious, and any assertion that they do depress wages should be backed up by evidence.
- Alupis 3y ago> Just as much reason to believe it would be lower than higher. That seems like some wild calculus. Fewer people willing to accept lower pay and be stuck at a specific company = higher pay. There's no other way to make the math work, particularly for extreme-demand positions like SE.
- slt2021 3y agowithout H1Bs silicon valley would not exist in its current form (it would be more like in 80s-90s)
- Alupis 3y agoThat's a lot like saying agriculture wouldn't exist in it's current form without importing cheap labor that can be (and is) abused. It's still wrong. The H1B game, as it's played today, is a relatively modern invention, and was not used to build startups into mega corps anyway.
- slt2021 3y agoAmerican agriculture would not exist without seasonal workers from Mexico, farmers love their H-2B visa for seasonal workers (oh, the irony) Especially Americans working at John Deere, Dow Chemical and all the food processing
- mannerheim 3y ago> I don't claim that H1Bs have the effect of increasing pay, but rather that their effect on pay is non-obvious, and any assertion that they do depress wages should be backed up by evidence.