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If workers were to seize the full value of their labour, or seize the means of production, capital armies (like the police) would attack them. Even when workers
by dontlaugh 3y ago
If workers were to seize the full value of their labour, or seize the means of production, capital armies (like the police) would attack them. Even when workers merely strike they commonly get attacked by police.
The laws (and even the liberal ideology you adhere to) exist to favour the ruling class. Why would the ruling class do anything else? When the ruling class are the owners of capital, the laws and culture disfavour workers.
Ultimately it’s not worth discussing this to death yet again, it has been done countless times in the last couple hundred years.
- s1artibartfast 3y agoNobody is using violence to stop workers from buying, renting, or building means of production. Buy your own example, violence only comes into play when they try to steal. The only real violence you mentioned is if police attack striking workers, which is exceedingly rare in most developed countries with the rule of law. What percentage of striking workers do you think are physically harmed by police in the us? If you think that is a likely or common outcome, we are probably living in different realities. You say that laws just favor the workers, but I wouldn't want to be a worker in a society without property rights. There is no point in working if any value you create can be stolen with impunity.