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As of when I last checked in 2021, Seattle tech salaries are 10-20% higher compared to Vancouver with house prices being like 33% lower. I imagine this situatio

As of when I last checked in 2021, Seattle tech salaries are 10-20% higher compared to Vancouver with house prices being like 33% lower. I imagine this situation holds when you compare Toronto to Chicago or Montreal to Boston. Even if the Canadian government makes the bureaucracy simpler/less onerous/less evil as long as those fundamental conditions exist I don't expect to see a mass exodus to Canada.

pcthrowaway 3y ago
According to https://www.levels.fyi/2022/ https://www.levels.fyi/2022/ , Seattle salaries are nearly double what they are in Vancouver
- dleslie 3y ago
  And if you go farther south, salaries are triple what they are in Vancouver. Or much more, if you're senior or specialized. A word of advice: if you have employable skills in tech simply avoid Canada; and if you must travel here, then work for Americans. They'll pay you much more than anyone local will even consider.
  - gloryjulio 3y ago
    Not sure about that. You don't get more pay in the bay area, you actually would be paid less because of the taxes. Seattle has faang level offices and their compensation numbers is a bit lower than their counter parts in bay area. But u get lower cost of living and vastly lower taxes so you would even earn more. I have known many ppl moved out of bay area and I think Seattle is one of the top paying locations all things considered
    - Tiktaalik 3y ago
      There are other subtle taxation differences that could really matter by jurisdiction as well (ie. low property taxes in much of Canada) and of course low healthcare costs (though this matters less for the highly paid tech worker). I mean for parents in Canada they could get $10/day daycare in some places as that's ramping up more and more. That could be a dramatic cost savings for a certain person. It would be interesting to see someone do a real comprehensive look between the countries that touches literally every possible cost. I don't think I've seen that. With my own back of the envelope math comparisons, the countries did tighten up.
  - Izikiel43 3y ago
    That’s one of my plans in the future if I decide to go back to Canada, work for a us startup or something and get us salary, Canadian salaries are terrible
- eliasmacpherson 3y ago
  Yeah, further to that: https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/seattle-senior-developer-salary-SRCH_IL.0,7_IM781_KO8,24.htm https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/seattle-senior-developer-... https://www.glassdoor.ca/Salaries/vancouver-senior-developer-salary-SRCH_IL.0,9_IM972_KO10,26.htm https://www.glassdoor.ca/Salaries/vancouver-senior-developer... perhaps the parent had not considered USD CAD conversion rates or looked at a specific role
- dangerwill 3y ago
  So I had offers from American-founded companies in both cities and that was the difference I was seeing. Maybe I just suck but the levels.fyi numbers have always been really inflated vs what I (and my circle) have seen.
- Izikiel43 3y ago
  Can confirm from personal experience

pcthrowaway 3y ago

According to https://www.levels.fyi/2022/ https://www.levels.fyi/2022/ , Seattle salaries are nearly double what they are in Vancouver

dleslie 3y ago
And if you go farther south, salaries are triple what they are in Vancouver. Or much more, if you're senior or specialized. A word of advice: if you have employable skills in tech simply avoid Canada; and if you must travel here, then work for Americans. They'll pay you much more than anyone local will even consider.
- gloryjulio 3y ago
  Not sure about that. You don't get more pay in the bay area, you actually would be paid less because of the taxes. Seattle has faang level offices and their compensation numbers is a bit lower than their counter parts in bay area. But u get lower cost of living and vastly lower taxes so you would even earn more. I have known many ppl moved out of bay area and I think Seattle is one of the top paying locations all things considered
  - Tiktaalik 3y ago
    There are other subtle taxation differences that could really matter by jurisdiction as well (ie. low property taxes in much of Canada) and of course low healthcare costs (though this matters less for the highly paid tech worker). I mean for parents in Canada they could get $10/day daycare in some places as that's ramping up more and more. That could be a dramatic cost savings for a certain person. It would be interesting to see someone do a real comprehensive look between the countries that touches literally every possible cost. I don't think I've seen that. With my own back of the envelope math comparisons, the countries did tighten up.
- Izikiel43 3y ago
  That’s one of my plans in the future if I decide to go back to Canada, work for a us startup or something and get us salary, Canadian salaries are terrible
eliasmacpherson 3y ago
Yeah, further to that: https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/seattle-senior-developer-salary-SRCH_IL.0,7_IM781_KO8,24.htm https://www.glassdoor.com/Salaries/seattle-senior-developer-... https://www.glassdoor.ca/Salaries/vancouver-senior-developer-salary-SRCH_IL.0,9_IM972_KO10,26.htm https://www.glassdoor.ca/Salaries/vancouver-senior-developer... perhaps the parent had not considered USD CAD conversion rates or looked at a specific role
dangerwill 3y ago
So I had offers from American-founded companies in both cities and that was the difference I was seeing. Maybe I just suck but the levels.fyi numbers have always been really inflated vs what I (and my circle) have seen.
Izikiel43 3y ago
Can confirm from personal experience