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yep, youtube video ids has/had? same issue where it would have things like fag/f4g etc in it. eg: google "allinurl:fag site:youtube.com"

stronglikedan 3y ago
You can prevent any obscenity, O and 0 confusion, and I and L confusion, just by excluding vowels. If someone interprets "f4g" in an offensive way, then they have bigger issues than can be dealt with in software.
- taosx 3y ago
  Why we care about obscenity in pseudo-random ids and url?
  - whimsicalism 3y ago
    anglo morals
  - Racing0461 3y ago
    i don't, the people that can start a **storm on twitter/tumblr causing your stock to drop 10% does.
- arcticbull 3y ago
  There was that time Delta generated an "H8GAYS" PNR. [1] Pretty sure that's valid Crockford encoding too :) however, to your point, it does rely on 'A'. "H8G4YS" would likely still offend someone out there, though, given the kerfuffle in [1]. [1] https://newsfeed.time.com/2013/12/17/delta-airlines-is-very-sorry-it-generated-a-confirmation-code-that-read-h8gays/ https://newsfeed.time.com/2013/12/17/delta-airlines-is-very-...
  - kortex 3y ago
    > But as White points out, it’s a bit surprising that Delta didn’t block this particular combination as a possibility. “I’m sure they removed many four-letter words that would be seen as offensive,” he tells the Post. “I’m surprised that ‘gays’ and ‘H8’ weren’t blocked as well.” Oh sweet summer child (meaning Jeff White, not OP/GP). As someone who has implemented a censorship/filtering list, this is a UX problem on the same level of decideability as the halting problem. You can spend boundless time curating a list to flag/grawlix every possible string that would offend even the most prudish of prudes, and some would still get through. Such as the superficially benign "EATTHE" https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2039662/Virginia-driver-wants-EAT-THE-KIDS-FIRST.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2039662/Virginia-dr...
- MR4D 3y ago
  Obscenities change with language. That’s why every language has them. Even programming language have them. For instance, Basic has GOTO. /j
  - ZeroClickOk 3y ago
    and javascript has type coercion
- oleganza 3y ago
  The problem is not being offended per se, but having your user id accidentally become "user_123fuck567" — that's akin to having a vulgar license plate on your car's forehead. People don't appreciate how lucky they sometimes are.
  - nephanth 3y ago
    Are those supposed to be user- facing though?
    - lolinder 3y ago
      Using Stripe-style prefixing is most useful if they are—it makes interacting with customer support easier because everyone is on the same page about what this ID identifies.

stronglikedan 3y ago

You can prevent any obscenity, O and 0 confusion, and I and L confusion, just by excluding vowels. If someone interprets "f4g" in an offensive way, then they have bigger issues than can be dealt with in software.

taosx 3y ago
Why we care about obscenity in pseudo-random ids and url?
- whimsicalism 3y ago
  anglo morals
- Racing0461 3y ago
  i don't, the people that can start a **storm on twitter/tumblr causing your stock to drop 10% does.
arcticbull 3y ago
There was that time Delta generated an "H8GAYS" PNR. [1] Pretty sure that's valid Crockford encoding too :) however, to your point, it does rely on 'A'. "H8G4YS" would likely still offend someone out there, though, given the kerfuffle in [1]. [1] https://newsfeed.time.com/2013/12/17/delta-airlines-is-very-sorry-it-generated-a-confirmation-code-that-read-h8gays/ https://newsfeed.time.com/2013/12/17/delta-airlines-is-very-...
- kortex 3y ago
  > But as White points out, it’s a bit surprising that Delta didn’t block this particular combination as a possibility. “I’m sure they removed many four-letter words that would be seen as offensive,” he tells the Post. “I’m surprised that ‘gays’ and ‘H8’ weren’t blocked as well.” Oh sweet summer child (meaning Jeff White, not OP/GP). As someone who has implemented a censorship/filtering list, this is a UX problem on the same level of decideability as the halting problem. You can spend boundless time curating a list to flag/grawlix every possible string that would offend even the most prudish of prudes, and some would still get through. Such as the superficially benign "EATTHE" https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2039662/Virginia-driver-wants-EAT-THE-KIDS-FIRST.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2039662/Virginia-dr...
MR4D 3y ago
Obscenities change with language. That’s why every language has them. Even programming language have them. For instance, Basic has GOTO. /j
- ZeroClickOk 3y ago
  and javascript has type coercion
oleganza 3y ago
The problem is not being offended per se, but having your user id accidentally become "user_123fuck567" — that's akin to having a vulgar license plate on your car's forehead. People don't appreciate how lucky they sometimes are.
- nephanth 3y ago
  Are those supposed to be user- facing though?
  - lolinder 3y ago
    Using Stripe-style prefixing is most useful if they are—it makes interacting with customer support easier because everyone is on the same page about what this ID identifies.