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No. They are pretty sensible with their product calls. Either it ends quickly (ping) or they see it through (Apple TV)

by i386 3y ago

minimaxir 3y ago
Or it's like AirPower where they said they were confident they were going to release it but eventually backpedaled.
- asdff 3y ago
  Or how 3d touch was going to change ios then that must have cut into margins too much and only lasted a few models.
  - bamfly 3y ago
    I could never get it to work consistently enough to make it worth learning what it could do & making it part of my workflow. It got in the way more often than I triggered it on purpose, even when I was trying to give it a fair shot. On Macbook touchpads, all it did was make my drag-n-drop operations fail ~70% of the time. I never did figure out a legitimate use for it on that platform, but then, I had to disable it as soon as I figured out that was what was messing me up. I don't need drag-n-drop to become a dexterity game. And I don't have any fine motor control deficiencies or anything. It was all just too damn fiddly to be worth using. Similar with the touchbar. Turns out my fingers just barely brush the F keys when I hit a couple of the number keys. No problem with physical F-keys, as there's almost no pressure applied, but the touchbar? Had to all but completely disable the damn thing to stop triggering it by accident. Not gonna change my typing muscle-memory for the sake of a fad interface that's not even available on most of the keyboards I touch in a day. Apple's not above making mis-steps. They do it pretty often, in fact.
asdff 3y ago
Bootcamp. Actual rosetta that can run 32 bit or powerpc apps. Airport and Time Capsule. The list goes on of pretty nice software and hardware that apple has abandoned over the years. I think a website like this would be pretty interesting to see all the products and features we've lost through the years.
- nomel 3y ago
  > Bootcamp Is that one fair? Running Windows, fully emulated, with the limited memory that M1 had, probably wouldn't be the best experience.
- rsynnott 3y ago
  Rosetta, FWIW, has _never_ been able to run 32bit x86 software, so probably not a great example. Bootcamp, it's not clear that they really had a choice. AFAIK you can't buy Windows for ARM separately at all (it's OEM only) and in any case it has super-limited hardware support. I am disappointed that they never replaced the Airport Extreme; it was one of their most "Just Works" products in its day, particularly in an era when consumer wifi routers very much didn't, and I'd have liked to see an Eero-type product from them (Eero is, itself, a fairly "just works" sort of product, mind you).

No. They are pretty sensible with their product calls. Either it ends quickly (ping) or they see it through (Apple TV)

by i386 3y ago

No. They are pretty sensible with their product calls. Either it ends quickly (ping) or they see it through (Apple TV)

minimaxir 3y ago

Or it's like AirPower where they said they were confident they were going to release it but eventually backpedaled.

asdff 3y ago
Or how 3d touch was going to change ios then that must have cut into margins too much and only lasted a few models.
- bamfly 3y ago
  I could never get it to work consistently enough to make it worth learning what it could do & making it part of my workflow. It got in the way more often than I triggered it on purpose, even when I was trying to give it a fair shot. On Macbook touchpads, all it did was make my drag-n-drop operations fail ~70% of the time. I never did figure out a legitimate use for it on that platform, but then, I had to disable it as soon as I figured out that was what was messing me up. I don't need drag-n-drop to become a dexterity game. And I don't have any fine motor control deficiencies or anything. It was all just too damn fiddly to be worth using. Similar with the touchbar. Turns out my fingers just barely brush the F keys when I hit a couple of the number keys. No problem with physical F-keys, as there's almost no pressure applied, but the touchbar? Had to all but completely disable the damn thing to stop triggering it by accident. Not gonna change my typing muscle-memory for the sake of a fad interface that's not even available on most of the keyboards I touch in a day. Apple's not above making mis-steps. They do it pretty often, in fact.

asdff 3y ago

Bootcamp. Actual rosetta that can run 32 bit or powerpc apps. Airport and Time Capsule. The list goes on of pretty nice software and hardware that apple has abandoned over the years. I think a website like this would be pretty interesting to see all the products and features we've lost through the years.

nomel 3y ago
> Bootcamp Is that one fair? Running Windows, fully emulated, with the limited memory that M1 had, probably wouldn't be the best experience.
rsynnott 3y ago
Rosetta, FWIW, has _never_ been able to run 32bit x86 software, so probably not a great example. Bootcamp, it's not clear that they really had a choice. AFAIK you can't buy Windows for ARM separately at all (it's OEM only) and in any case it has super-limited hardware support. I am disappointed that they never replaced the Airport Extreme; it was one of their most "Just Works" products in its day, particularly in an era when consumer wifi routers very much didn't, and I'd have liked to see an Eero-type product from them (Eero is, itself, a fairly "just works" sort of product, mind you).