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is it time someone starts killedbyapple.com lol

yodon 3y ago
> is it time someone starts killedbyapple.com? If the fiercest complaint you can muster is that Apple is shutting down a service that was, by today's standards, poorly designed and risky to use (photos only existed for 30 days if you didn't save them) and that has been superseded by a much better product (iCloud) for more than 9 years, well, I guess you must have more time on your hands to be outraged about product decisions than I do.
- thorncorona 3y ago
  IDK man, they tend to push the industry in anti-consumer ways. They killed the audio jack. That's pretty heinous. And they removed the sim slot. And the finger print reader. And they actively try to kill 3rd party repair.
  - wahahah 3y ago
    On the other side, they brought a fingerprint reader that actually stored biometric data safely, innaccessible to the OS with the first secure enclave.
  - bamfly 3y ago
    > They killed the audio jack. That's pretty heinous. Yeah, this still sucks. It'll probably never stop being worse than having the jack. > And they removed the sim slot. ... this has been really nice? The new virtual-sim thing has been strictly an improvement, for me. But there may be some use-cases I don't need that it's been worse for, IDK. > And the finger print reader. Poor success rate for me in the best of times, and I had to re-train it every few months or shifting temp & humidity would drop the unlock success rate to like 10%. Face unlock has been a huge improvement for me, and keeps getting better, a couple years of Covid mask-related trouble aside (but, YMMV).
  - lockhouse 3y ago
    > They killed the audio jack. Annoying, but easily fixed with an adapter or bluetooth headphones. > And they removed the sim slot. They're just ahead of the curve on this one. The entire industry is moving to eSims for a number of reasons. This wasn't just Apple. In fact, Samsung was the first major company to release a product that used it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESIM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESIM > And the finger print reader. Finger print readers are available on iPhone SEs, iPads (except Pro models), MacBooks, and even the latest version of their desktop keyboards. Every other device either uses Face ID or is something that just doesn't make sense to have biometric unlocking as a feature in the first place. > And they actively try to kill 3rd party repair. Apple devices are not easy to repair, but they do have this: https://support.apple.com/self-service-repair https://support.apple.com/self-service-repair Which is better than what many manufacturers have.
i386 3y ago
No. They are pretty sensible with their product calls. Either it ends quickly (ping) or they see it through (Apple TV)
- minimaxir 3y ago
  Or it's like AirPower where they said they were confident they were going to release it but eventually backpedaled.
  - asdff 3y ago
    Or how 3d touch was going to change ios then that must have cut into margins too much and only lasted a few models.
    - bamfly 3y ago
      I could never get it to work consistently enough to make it worth learning what it could do & making it part of my workflow. It got in the way more often than I triggered it on purpose, even when I was trying to give it a fair shot. On Macbook touchpads, all it did was make my drag-n-drop operations fail ~70% of the time. I never did figure out a legitimate use for it on that platform, but then, I had to disable it as soon as I figured out that was what was messing me up. I don't need drag-n-drop to become a dexterity game. And I don't have any fine motor control deficiencies or anything. It was all just too damn fiddly to be worth using. Similar with the touchbar. Turns out my fingers just barely brush the F keys when I hit a couple of the number keys. No problem with physical F-keys, as there's almost no pressure applied, but the touchbar? Had to all but completely disable the damn thing to stop triggering it by accident. Not gonna change my typing muscle-memory for the sake of a fad interface that's not even available on most of the keyboards I touch in a day. Apple's not above making mis-steps. They do it pretty often, in fact.
- asdff 3y ago
  Bootcamp. Actual rosetta that can run 32 bit or powerpc apps. Airport and Time Capsule. The list goes on of pretty nice software and hardware that apple has abandoned over the years. I think a website like this would be pretty interesting to see all the products and features we've lost through the years.
idk1 3y ago
I still miss Bing to this day, there were dozens of users. Dozens!
- cprecioso 3y ago
  You mean Ping?
  - idk1 3y ago
    Yes! My subconscious couldn't even type it it's so obscure, it auto-corrected to a current service. Haha.
nomel 3y ago
I would love to see one. I've, personally, never had Apple pull anything out from under me, so I'd be really curious what it would even contain.

> is it time someone starts killedbyapple.com? If the fiercest complaint you can muster is that Apple is shutting down a service that was, by today's standards, poorly designed and risky to use (photos only existed for 30 days if you didn't save them) and that has been superseded by a much better product (iCloud) for more than 9 years, well, I guess you must have more time on your hands to be outraged about product decisions than I do.

thorncorona 3y ago
IDK man, they tend to push the industry in anti-consumer ways. They killed the audio jack. That's pretty heinous. And they removed the sim slot. And the finger print reader. And they actively try to kill 3rd party repair.
- wahahah 3y ago
  On the other side, they brought a fingerprint reader that actually stored biometric data safely, innaccessible to the OS with the first secure enclave.
- bamfly 3y ago
  > They killed the audio jack. That's pretty heinous. Yeah, this still sucks. It'll probably never stop being worse than having the jack. > And they removed the sim slot. ... this has been really nice? The new virtual-sim thing has been strictly an improvement, for me. But there may be some use-cases I don't need that it's been worse for, IDK. > And the finger print reader. Poor success rate for me in the best of times, and I had to re-train it every few months or shifting temp & humidity would drop the unlock success rate to like 10%. Face unlock has been a huge improvement for me, and keeps getting better, a couple years of Covid mask-related trouble aside (but, YMMV).
- lockhouse 3y ago
  > They killed the audio jack. Annoying, but easily fixed with an adapter or bluetooth headphones. > And they removed the sim slot. They're just ahead of the curve on this one. The entire industry is moving to eSims for a number of reasons. This wasn't just Apple. In fact, Samsung was the first major company to release a product that used it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESIM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESIM > And the finger print reader. Finger print readers are available on iPhone SEs, iPads (except Pro models), MacBooks, and even the latest version of their desktop keyboards. Every other device either uses Face ID or is something that just doesn't make sense to have biometric unlocking as a feature in the first place. > And they actively try to kill 3rd party repair. Apple devices are not easy to repair, but they do have this: https://support.apple.com/self-service-repair https://support.apple.com/self-service-repair Which is better than what many manufacturers have.

i386 3y ago

No. They are pretty sensible with their product calls. Either it ends quickly (ping) or they see it through (Apple TV)

minimaxir 3y ago
Or it's like AirPower where they said they were confident they were going to release it but eventually backpedaled.
- asdff 3y ago
  Or how 3d touch was going to change ios then that must have cut into margins too much and only lasted a few models.
  - bamfly 3y ago
    I could never get it to work consistently enough to make it worth learning what it could do & making it part of my workflow. It got in the way more often than I triggered it on purpose, even when I was trying to give it a fair shot. On Macbook touchpads, all it did was make my drag-n-drop operations fail ~70% of the time. I never did figure out a legitimate use for it on that platform, but then, I had to disable it as soon as I figured out that was what was messing me up. I don't need drag-n-drop to become a dexterity game. And I don't have any fine motor control deficiencies or anything. It was all just too damn fiddly to be worth using. Similar with the touchbar. Turns out my fingers just barely brush the F keys when I hit a couple of the number keys. No problem with physical F-keys, as there's almost no pressure applied, but the touchbar? Had to all but completely disable the damn thing to stop triggering it by accident. Not gonna change my typing muscle-memory for the sake of a fad interface that's not even available on most of the keyboards I touch in a day. Apple's not above making mis-steps. They do it pretty often, in fact.
asdff 3y ago
Bootcamp. Actual rosetta that can run 32 bit or powerpc apps. Airport and Time Capsule. The list goes on of pretty nice software and hardware that apple has abandoned over the years. I think a website like this would be pretty interesting to see all the products and features we've lost through the years.

idk1 3y ago

I still miss Bing to this day, there were dozens of users. Dozens!

cprecioso 3y ago
You mean Ping?
- idk1 3y ago
  Yes! My subconscious couldn't even type it it's so obscure, it auto-corrected to a current service. Haha.

nomel 3y ago

I would love to see one. I've, personally, never had Apple pull anything out from under me, so I'd be really curious what it would even contain.