3 ms·

I don't think they they'll need to increase, fly.io is already rather expensive as far as cloud offerings go today: shared 8 vCPU / 16GB VPS is $85/mo at fly, H

I don't think they they'll need to increase, fly.io is already rather expensive as far as cloud offerings go today: shared 8 vCPU / 16GB VPS is $85/mo at fly, Hetzner is $16/mo for the same.

flagged24 3y ago
It's worse. For a 16 vCPU + 32GB RAM + 20TB traffic (fly.io has max 8 vCPU) I would pay around $750 on fly.io instead of €30 on Hetzner. People are willing to pay a lot for I guess an easy deploy story ?
- deleted 3y ago
  [deleted]
- bombela 3y ago
  You pay for not having to manage anything yourself or hire somebody dedicated to do so. How much is that worth?
- dathinab 3y ago
  Developer time is pretty costy and if you can save a lot of dev time a noticeable higher running cost can be well worth it for some companies (like smaller companies, startups which have still a fluent changing business model etc.). Through also it's not a fair compression because for the kind of services where being close to the edge and redundant over many places matters Hetzner isn't even an option. AWS maybe, but AWS is also pain in my experience.
  - flagged24 3y ago
    That's fair. Depending on budget, requirements and capabilities of the team something like fly.io can become a valid option.
danenania 3y ago
Is fly vs Hetzner really apples to apples though? A more apt comparison would be to AWS, GCP, and Azure no?
- berkle4455 3y ago
  How isn’t? You’re paying for a VM with access to a slice of resources. Yes fly.io offers some clever deployment and routing, but it’s still your code running on a VM.
  - danenania 3y ago
    You could ask the same question about why Hetzner is so much cheaper than the big cloud providers. If there weren’t any tradeoffs, presumably every company running containers or VMs on a big cloud would move to Hetzner and save 80%. Why isn’t that happening? Whatever the answer is, it’s probably the same answer for why many companies would likely be willing to pay more for fly.io than Hetzner as well.

I don't think they they'll need to increase, fly.io is already rather expensive as far as cloud offerings go today: shared 8 vCPU / 16GB VPS is $85/mo at fly, Hetzner is $16/mo for the same.

flagged24 3y ago

It's worse. For a 16 vCPU + 32GB RAM + 20TB traffic (fly.io has max 8 vCPU) I would pay around $750 on fly.io instead of €30 on Hetzner. People are willing to pay a lot for I guess an easy deploy story ?

deleted 3y ago
[deleted]
bombela 3y ago
You pay for not having to manage anything yourself or hire somebody dedicated to do so. How much is that worth?
dathinab 3y ago
Developer time is pretty costy and if you can save a lot of dev time a noticeable higher running cost can be well worth it for some companies (like smaller companies, startups which have still a fluent changing business model etc.). Through also it's not a fair compression because for the kind of services where being close to the edge and redundant over many places matters Hetzner isn't even an option. AWS maybe, but AWS is also pain in my experience.
- flagged24 3y ago
  That's fair. Depending on budget, requirements and capabilities of the team something like fly.io can become a valid option.

danenania 3y ago

Is fly vs Hetzner really apples to apples though? A more apt comparison would be to AWS, GCP, and Azure no?

berkle4455 3y ago
How isn’t? You’re paying for a VM with access to a slice of resources. Yes fly.io offers some clever deployment and routing, but it’s still your code running on a VM.
- danenania 3y ago
  You could ask the same question about why Hetzner is so much cheaper than the big cloud providers. If there weren’t any tradeoffs, presumably every company running containers or VMs on a big cloud would move to Hetzner and save 80%. Why isn’t that happening? Whatever the answer is, it’s probably the same answer for why many companies would likely be willing to pay more for fly.io than Hetzner as well.