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Halving the emissions of the wealthiest 1% would have the same effect as eliminating the emissions from the poorest 50% of the population[1]. It's not a popula

Halving the emissions of the wealthiest 1% would have the same effect as eliminating the emissions from the poorest 50% of the population[1]. It's not a population problem. It's a consumption problem. The number of people consuming is only one variable of the equation, and it is neither the easiest, fastest, most attainable nor the most ethical one to adjust. There are a lot of low hanging fruit we could tackle with willing policymakers, before depopulation has to be even considered. [1] https://www.oxfam.org/en/press-releases/carbon-emissions-richest-1-percent-more-double-emissions-poorest-half-humanity https://www.oxfam.org/en/press-releases/carbon-emissions-ric...

HPsquared 3y ago
The median 50% US citizen is probably still in the top 1% of global population in terms of emissions. (same goes for most First-Worlders)
- mistrial9 3y ago
  it is not the person, it is a system of systems
- throwawaytemp29 3y ago
  Given US has around 4% of the worlds population, this is not possible.
lm28469 3y ago
The plot twist is that if you live in a large western city, own a car and take the plane a few times a year you already are part of the problem > In 2015, around half the emissions of the richest 10 percent - people with net income over $38,000 - are linked to citizens in the US and the EU
- melagonster 3y ago
  yes, this is why we need claim participation of American people.
pengaru 3y ago
It is very much a population problem, that 50% you point out is just a ticking co2 bomb eager to get out of the dirt and into an SUV.
- MildlySerious 3y ago
  Industrialization, growing wealth and rising standard of living of impoverished regions were thoroughly accounted for in the IPCC scenarios. Now the parts of the world who got us here in the first place are burning through the remaining CO2 budget, with no regard for these regions, while pointing fingers at third world nations. It's a sad joke, and nobody's laughing.

HPsquared 3y ago

The median 50% US citizen is probably still in the top 1% of global population in terms of emissions. (same goes for most First-Worlders)

mistrial9 3y ago
it is not the person, it is a system of systems
throwawaytemp29 3y ago
Given US has around 4% of the worlds population, this is not possible.

lm28469 3y ago

The plot twist is that if you live in a large western city, own a car and take the plane a few times a year you already are part of the problem > In 2015, around half the emissions of the richest 10 percent - people with net income over $38,000 - are linked to citizens in the US and the EU

melagonster 3y ago
yes, this is why we need claim participation of American people.

pengaru 3y ago

It is very much a population problem, that 50% you point out is just a ticking co2 bomb eager to get out of the dirt and into an SUV.

MildlySerious 3y ago
Industrialization, growing wealth and rising standard of living of impoverished regions were thoroughly accounted for in the IPCC scenarios. Now the parts of the world who got us here in the first place are burning through the remaining CO2 budget, with no regard for these regions, while pointing fingers at third world nations. It's a sad joke, and nobody's laughing.