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I think you're reading their intent WAY too kindly, especially when you see them in essence say "stop having fun, life is suffering, & also women should be maki

I think you're reading their intent WAY too kindly, especially when you see them in essence say "stop having fun, life is suffering, & also women should be making babies instead of having fun." (see their part on bio-clock and maybe look at how they switch wording from childish for men, to infantile for women...). They're attacking people for trying to find a little joy in their short lives on this rock. And maybe there's more a percentage of "childish things" enjoyed now. But when you can't do the things you were told you'd be able to as an adult (get a good paying job, go on holidays, own a home, settle down with some stability), is it any wonder there's some regression?

bemusedthrow75 3y ago
I don't think that is a particularly fair interpretation, but again it's not an unreasonable one.
zpeti 3y ago
No. You can enjoy yourself, god knows we have the good life compared to 200 years ago. But joy doesn’t actually satisfy you on a deep level, and it is a childish thing to pursue. Doing really hard and responsible stuff doesn’t make you happy. I have two children, trust me, it would be way easier and happier to lie on a beach and drink cocktails all day, and I could actually do it from past successes. Is that really worthwhile though? Does that add meaning to my life? How many happy moments will I ultimately have from these, and will I look back and be happy I spent my life drinking cocktails? And it’s not just cocktails, it’s all the infantile pleasured that we can indulge in, from Star Wars collectibles to activist politics. These things just won’t fill you up ultimately. And so few people “get this” these days. It’s delusional and it’s childish, and it’s reinforced by the current capitalism and leadership. It’s the wrong path. And 30-40 years from now many many people will realise and will have extremely depressed retirements.
- licebmi__at__ 3y ago
  > And it’s not just cocktails, it’s all the infantile pleasured that we can indulge in, from Star Wars collectibles to activist politics. Hard disagree with this one. Being engaged with politics is one of the most responsible things one can do for the future of their children.
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- archagon 3y ago
  If we’re talking about things that make life worth living versus empty calories, then might as well dump all movies, shows, paintings, books, and music alongside those cocktails. Otherwise, consider that maybe op just doesn’t understand comic books and animation as mediums, and has some weird hangups about them. (Their loss?)
Spivak 3y ago
> And maybe there's more a percentage of "childish things" enjoyed now At some point we have to adjust the scales and say that since so many adults are enjoying "childish" activities and media that those things are just for adults now, and maybe always have been if there wasn't so much shame around it. Adults enjoy Bluey more than their kids do. Craig of The Creek and Gumball are some of my friend's favorites. Ted Lasso took all the formulas from children's media but put them in adult situations and it won like every award. Marvel is now more a hit with adults than kids.

bemusedthrow75 3y ago

I don't think that is a particularly fair interpretation, but again it's not an unreasonable one.

zpeti 3y ago

No. You can enjoy yourself, god knows we have the good life compared to 200 years ago. But joy doesn’t actually satisfy you on a deep level, and it is a childish thing to pursue. Doing really hard and responsible stuff doesn’t make you happy. I have two children, trust me, it would be way easier and happier to lie on a beach and drink cocktails all day, and I could actually do it from past successes. Is that really worthwhile though? Does that add meaning to my life? How many happy moments will I ultimately have from these, and will I look back and be happy I spent my life drinking cocktails? And it’s not just cocktails, it’s all the infantile pleasured that we can indulge in, from Star Wars collectibles to activist politics. These things just won’t fill you up ultimately. And so few people “get this” these days. It’s delusional and it’s childish, and it’s reinforced by the current capitalism and leadership. It’s the wrong path. And 30-40 years from now many many people will realise and will have extremely depressed retirements.

licebmi__at__ 3y ago
> And it’s not just cocktails, it’s all the infantile pleasured that we can indulge in, from Star Wars collectibles to activist politics. Hard disagree with this one. Being engaged with politics is one of the most responsible things one can do for the future of their children.
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archagon 3y ago
If we’re talking about things that make life worth living versus empty calories, then might as well dump all movies, shows, paintings, books, and music alongside those cocktails. Otherwise, consider that maybe op just doesn’t understand comic books and animation as mediums, and has some weird hangups about them. (Their loss?)

Spivak 3y ago

> And maybe there's more a percentage of "childish things" enjoyed now At some point we have to adjust the scales and say that since so many adults are enjoying "childish" activities and media that those things are just for adults now, and maybe always have been if there wasn't so much shame around it. Adults enjoy Bluey more than their kids do. Craig of The Creek and Gumball are some of my friend's favorites. Ted Lasso took all the formulas from children's media but put them in adult situations and it won like every award. Marvel is now more a hit with adults than kids.