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Assuming this isn’t just a big psyop trying to scare US adversaries, and that UFO’s are real… the US was the first to detonate nukes in 1945, and on its own ter

Assuming this isn’t just a big psyop trying to scare US adversaries, and that UFO’s are real… the US was the first to detonate nukes in 1945, and on its own territory, which might explain some of it. Maybe the UFO’s were investigating how scientifically and technologically advanced humanity was becoming, and naturally focused on nuclear tech as a leading indicator. The 1936 Berlin Olympics TV broadcast might also have alerted them to humanity, and travel time of the broadcast plus travel time of UFO’s to Earth (assuming they have lightspeed capability) might have resulted in them arriving right around when nukes were invented (if they’re from, say, Alpha Centauri which is 4 light-years away). The US and Europe also have free press where things like this are more likely to be publicly reported than in say, the USSR back in the day, or China under the CCP. Which in conjunction with the above may explain sightings maps like this one, where sightings are most frequent in the US and secondarily in Europe: https://updb.app/map?zoom=1.00&lon=149.0917&lat=37.3003 https://updb.app/map?zoom=1.00&lon=149.0917&lat=37.3003 Also, if you search number of reports by date ranges, look at what you get: 1-1943: 1566 sightings reports 1944-2023: 294,641 sightings reports Two orders of magnitude more sightings reports in the 80yrs since nukes were invented, vs in the almost two millennia previously. Obviously we also had more robust and technologically advanced media in the latter time frame, so that contributes much to the discrepancy. But still a huge discrepancy.

SketchySeaBeast 3y ago
That data is slighty suspect. Not just the reliability of reporting between 1-1900, but also the data on the site - apparently there was a siting in Chicago Illinois in the year 600? There's a lot of reports for American locations even earlier than that. I think most importantly we started watching the sky when humanity started to fly. Suddenly the heavens were a viable place for mankind to be, especially after we ourselves got to space. The post-WW2 era also had a whole culture that was used to watching the sky because there had been very plausible threats of death from that direction. We suddenly cared when we saw something weird in the night beyond just a passing curiosity.
- SkyMarshal 3y ago
  All good points. I doubt the folks running that site have vetted every one of their hundreds of thousands of data points, so it's not an authoritative source, just a descriptive one at most. And, when did science fiction literature start getting big and developing plots involving aliens, and might that have stimulated people's imaginations about UFOs and aliens (which then conversely stimulated more scifi about them)? Was this happening prior to the atomic age or space age, or did that kind of scifi really get started with the space race? If the latter, that might also explain the huge increase in imaginings... er, sightings. I also can't help but wonder at the timing, with geopolitical tensions rising and China challenging US military and technological supremacy. It's quite a coincidence. Maybe it's the mother of all CIA mindfuck psyops, to introduce a new source of uncertainty and deterrence into the CCP and Russia's strategic calculations. There's "whistleblowers" on TV claiming the US is in possession of "exotic materials", aka alien tech, since the 1940s. Just how much has been reverse engineered in that time, and deployed in super secret weapons systems that not even Congress knows about? Would the CCP really want to risk WWIII against the US when there's even a small possibility of that? There's a great scene in "The Expanse" relevant to this situation, where UN Deputy Undersecretary Avasarala has a meeting considering the possibility of first contact: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYRLV-qm3Qs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYRLV-qm3Qs "I have a file with nine hundred pages of analysis and contingency plans for war with Mars, including fourteen different scenarios for what to do if they develop an unexpected new technology. My file for what to do if an advanced alien species comes calling, is three pages long, and begins with 'Find God'".
SheinhardtWigCo 3y ago
This makes a lot of sense. To a sufficiently advanced civilization with the ability to detect large releases of energy elsewhere in the universe, the start of the atomic age could have sent an unmistakable signal - distinct from other patterns caused by natural phenomenon - that an advanced form of life must exist here.
- encoderer 3y ago
  Kardashev would approve https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale
- SkyMarshal 3y ago
  Exactly. Humanity's first radio broadcast capable of detection from distant space was the 1936 Berlin Olympics broadcast. Then nukes nine years later were even more detectable, and discernible from natural sources. 4yrs travel time to Alpha Centauri, then 4 years back in a lightspeed craft, and voila - Roswell, sightings, abductions, coverups, etc.
TechBro8615 3y ago
The date that nukes were invented is also roughly the date when the intelligence community captured the military industrial complex and started running psychological warfare campaigns against american citizens...

SketchySeaBeast 3y ago

That data is slighty suspect. Not just the reliability of reporting between 1-1900, but also the data on the site - apparently there was a siting in Chicago Illinois in the year 600? There's a lot of reports for American locations even earlier than that. I think most importantly we started watching the sky when humanity started to fly. Suddenly the heavens were a viable place for mankind to be, especially after we ourselves got to space. The post-WW2 era also had a whole culture that was used to watching the sky because there had been very plausible threats of death from that direction. We suddenly cared when we saw something weird in the night beyond just a passing curiosity.

SkyMarshal 3y ago
All good points. I doubt the folks running that site have vetted every one of their hundreds of thousands of data points, so it's not an authoritative source, just a descriptive one at most. And, when did science fiction literature start getting big and developing plots involving aliens, and might that have stimulated people's imaginations about UFOs and aliens (which then conversely stimulated more scifi about them)? Was this happening prior to the atomic age or space age, or did that kind of scifi really get started with the space race? If the latter, that might also explain the huge increase in imaginings... er, sightings. I also can't help but wonder at the timing, with geopolitical tensions rising and China challenging US military and technological supremacy. It's quite a coincidence. Maybe it's the mother of all CIA mindfuck psyops, to introduce a new source of uncertainty and deterrence into the CCP and Russia's strategic calculations. There's "whistleblowers" on TV claiming the US is in possession of "exotic materials", aka alien tech, since the 1940s. Just how much has been reverse engineered in that time, and deployed in super secret weapons systems that not even Congress knows about? Would the CCP really want to risk WWIII against the US when there's even a small possibility of that? There's a great scene in "The Expanse" relevant to this situation, where UN Deputy Undersecretary Avasarala has a meeting considering the possibility of first contact: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYRLV-qm3Qs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYRLV-qm3Qs "I have a file with nine hundred pages of analysis and contingency plans for war with Mars, including fourteen different scenarios for what to do if they develop an unexpected new technology. My file for what to do if an advanced alien species comes calling, is three pages long, and begins with 'Find God'".

SheinhardtWigCo 3y ago

This makes a lot of sense. To a sufficiently advanced civilization with the ability to detect large releases of energy elsewhere in the universe, the start of the atomic age could have sent an unmistakable signal - distinct from other patterns caused by natural phenomenon - that an advanced form of life must exist here.

encoderer 3y ago
Kardashev would approve https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale
SkyMarshal 3y ago
Exactly. Humanity's first radio broadcast capable of detection from distant space was the 1936 Berlin Olympics broadcast. Then nukes nine years later were even more detectable, and discernible from natural sources. 4yrs travel time to Alpha Centauri, then 4 years back in a lightspeed craft, and voila - Roswell, sightings, abductions, coverups, etc.

TechBro8615 3y ago

The date that nukes were invented is also roughly the date when the intelligence community captured the military industrial complex and started running psychological warfare campaigns against american citizens...