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I wouldn't agree that Disney is in a slump at all -- and it's possibly their lack of slump that makes it easier to level shots at Pixar. Frozen (2013) just get

by genmon 3y ago

I wouldn't agree that Disney is in a slump at all -- and it's possibly their lack of slump that makes it easier to level shots at Pixar. Frozen (2013) just gets in your decade window. Then there's Moana (2016) and Encanto (2021). All three have been hits with great songs, values and storytelling.

noirscape 3y ago
The release cycle is still a lot more staggered since Disney just interspices it with a lot more filler content (those Live Action Remakes) that the Pixar releases are somewhat meant to fall back on. For every Frozen, there's a Tangled that doesn't make the cut in quality and that stands out when they don't have the same consistent release cycle of movies for the animated canon since it's broken up by the mostly mediocre Live Action ones.
- epiccoleman 3y ago
  I would take Tangled over Moana any day of the week. Moana looks fantastic and the music is good, but the story of the movie left me pretty cold.
- basch 3y ago
  Staggered how? They have averaged a movie a year for the last 40 years. The Disney live action movies have almost nothing to do with the release schedule of Disney Animation movies, nor have they impacted how many get made. They are completely different studios. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Walt_Disney_Animation_Studios_films https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Walt_Disney_Animation_... Their 3D movies in order are Chicken Little, Meet the Robinsons, Bolt, Tangled, (Pooh), Wreck it Ralph, Frozen, Big Hero 6, Zootopia, Moana, Ralph Breaks the Internet, Frozen II, Raya, Encanto, Strange Worlds. That’s 15 movies in 17 years, and Princess and the Frog makes 16. Bolt, Tangled, Ralph, Frozen, Big Hero 6, Zootopia, Moana was an excellent run. (Disney acquired Pixar during production of Meet the Robinsons, and about 60% of the movie was remade, every movie since was produced by Pixar descendants.) And Tangled is better than Frozen, even if it didn’t have the zeitgeist. (Tangled is the highest rated of any movie I listed on Letterboxd, followed by Big Hero 6, Moana, and Zootopia, so I’m not unique in that opinion. Not sure what the Letterboxd community has against Bolt.) Outside of Chicken Little, there’s really not a bad movie on that list (I haven’t seen Strange World yet.) If anything, acquiring Pixar doubled their animation output. I’ll give you, that if you ignore Ralph Breaks the Internet and Frozen 2 (sequels they put a huge amount of effort into), there appears to be a creative gap from Moana in 2016, till Raya/Encanto in 2021, which happens to overlap the acceleration of live action remakes. They made 5 live action remakes in 2019, with only Frozen II against them. If any events radically altered the trajectory of Disney Animation output, they are in order: Frozen and Ralph being such big hits that Disney pivoted to sequels, John Lasseter being removed in 2018, and Covid.

by genmon 3y ago

noirscape 3y ago

The release cycle is still a lot more staggered since Disney just interspices it with a lot more filler content (those Live Action Remakes) that the Pixar releases are somewhat meant to fall back on. For every Frozen, there's a Tangled that doesn't make the cut in quality and that stands out when they don't have the same consistent release cycle of movies for the animated canon since it's broken up by the mostly mediocre Live Action ones.

epiccoleman 3y ago
I would take Tangled over Moana any day of the week. Moana looks fantastic and the music is good, but the story of the movie left me pretty cold.
basch 3y ago
Staggered how? They have averaged a movie a year for the last 40 years. The Disney live action movies have almost nothing to do with the release schedule of Disney Animation movies, nor have they impacted how many get made. They are completely different studios. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Walt_Disney_Animation_Studios_films https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Walt_Disney_Animation_... Their 3D movies in order are Chicken Little, Meet the Robinsons, Bolt, Tangled, (Pooh), Wreck it Ralph, Frozen, Big Hero 6, Zootopia, Moana, Ralph Breaks the Internet, Frozen II, Raya, Encanto, Strange Worlds. That’s 15 movies in 17 years, and Princess and the Frog makes 16. Bolt, Tangled, Ralph, Frozen, Big Hero 6, Zootopia, Moana was an excellent run. (Disney acquired Pixar during production of Meet the Robinsons, and about 60% of the movie was remade, every movie since was produced by Pixar descendants.) And Tangled is better than Frozen, even if it didn’t have the zeitgeist. (Tangled is the highest rated of any movie I listed on Letterboxd, followed by Big Hero 6, Moana, and Zootopia, so I’m not unique in that opinion. Not sure what the Letterboxd community has against Bolt.) Outside of Chicken Little, there’s really not a bad movie on that list (I haven’t seen Strange World yet.) If anything, acquiring Pixar doubled their animation output. I’ll give you, that if you ignore Ralph Breaks the Internet and Frozen 2 (sequels they put a huge amount of effort into), there appears to be a creative gap from Moana in 2016, till Raya/Encanto in 2021, which happens to overlap the acceleration of live action remakes. They made 5 live action remakes in 2019, with only Frozen II against them. If any events radically altered the trajectory of Disney Animation output, they are in order: Frozen and Ralph being such big hits that Disney pivoted to sequels, John Lasseter being removed in 2018, and Covid.