all the absolutism I read in the comments speaks miles about the problem not being in ORMs (which are a tool that is very useful given the right scenario) but e

all the absolutism I read in the comments speaks miles about the problem not being in ORMs (which are a tool that is very useful given the right scenario) but existing between chair and keyboard. I'd rather have an ORM than having to deal with some of the garbage code I've seen over the years (specially around many-to-many tables or relations in general) to handle the deserialization from db "manually, hand crafted, artisanal, more maintainable", specially for very basic CRUD or almost CRUD scenario where a decent ORM pulls most of the project with little hassle. Hand crafted queries have their places just like ORMs.