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> Sounds like you have become a perfect specimen of Putinist Russia: trusting no-one, doubting everything, doing nothing. Yep, this is typical of Westerners. W

> Sounds like you have become a perfect specimen of Putinist Russia: trusting no-one, doubting everything, doing nothing. Yep, this is typical of Westerners. We know you Russians are dumb and don't appreciate our "great democracy". Yeah, we had a taste of it in the 1990s. USA came and destroyed the country, economy, jobs, the future. CIA "advisors" with their "shock therapy" destroyed economy overnight, put dumb drunkard Yeltsin in power, and stole everything valuable they could get a hold of. People here were dying of hunger, but West was extremely happy with the "democracy" they built here. > trusting no-one, doubting everything, doing nothing. I trust myself and trust my country. I have no doubts we'll win. I'm doing my job, care about my family, and do many other things. I guess by "doing nothing" you mean that I'm not staging mutiny against the government in the interest of United States. Why would I? I've already lived through what US is calling "help to other countries". Also I've seen what US had done to Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, and many other countries. Only a dumb person would believe that US is interested in helping any other nation. US is destroying the economy even of its closest allies like Germany, which is especially evident now. We call this kind of US politics: "you die today, but I die tomorrow", meaning that it would destroy anyone and anything to be able to consume more. Not only I do not support anything coming from the West because of that, but try to dissuade everyone around me if people have doubts. > Have you tried quantifying it? For example, when someone from that part of political spectrum participated in elections, how well did they do? How would I quantify it? From what trusted sources? Do you think there was an official neo-Nazi party in Ukraine? > Did the "very active movement" ever reach even 1% of support? I don't know how to quantify it, but I know that long before 2014 and 2022, Nazies were drawing crosses on doors of "Russians" in apartment buildings and promising they'll come next night and assassinate "every Russian swine living there". Also, if you'd be able to read and speak Russian and Ukrainian, you'd be shocked how many promises were made on the Internet "to kill all Russians with the knives", "to hang up all Russians". If you'd check apparel of young Ukrainians even before 2022, many of them had t-shirts saying "Kill all Russians with the knives", or Nazi Germany slogans and insignia. We also saw Ukrainian history books published by Western funds that promoted absolute nonsense, some confabulated stories like Russians were killing Ukrainians by millions all the history. And on back of all the books something like: "Printed by Freedom Press" or smth. like that. For me that is more than enough to get a feeling of what is going on in Ukraine. > Why would you expect to see much positive coverage? When you google Nazi Germany, the first results aren't innovations in TV transmission nor advancements in wildlife protection either. Should they be? Is that the main contribution of Germany to the world between 1933 and 1945? Yeah, this is also a weapon of Western propaganda: instead of facts and thinking, just compare ~Stalin~ Putin to Hitler, and Russia to Nazi Germany. It's all the same! Very good emotional argument. US propaganda is indeed the most advanced in the world. It's very hard to resist. But one thing gives me hope: it became so strong, that West started to believe in its wishful thinking. Like for example in February 2022 here on HN many commenters wrote something along the lines: "Russia is running out of ammo!", "Tens of thousands Russians are surrendering every day", "Russia has enough rockets only for the next three days!". Likewise, now, when Ukrainian counteroffensive failed miserably, they say: "It's not a counteroffensive but recon missions, counteroffensive will start later". That is a good thing that you believe your own lies.

chrysler 3y ago
>> Yep, this is typical of Westerners. We know you Russians are dumb and don't appreciate our "great democracy". Yeah, we had a taste of it in the 1990s. USA came and destroyed the country, economy, jobs, the future. CIA "advisors" with their "shock therapy" destroyed economy overnight, put dumb drunkard Yeltsin in power, and stole everything valuable they could get a hold of. >> People here were dying of hunger, but West was extremely happy with the "democracy" they built here. Please spare me of this pathetic loser mentality that blames all of your failures on someone else. The CIA did not force upon you Stalin and the murder of millions home and abroad, nor did the CIA choose you Brezhnev and stagnation in all walks of life, nor did the CIA lock up in psychiatric hospitals the people trying to change the system. It was your own making that by the end of 1980s, the costly war in Afghanistan, industrial accidents like Chernobyl, and stagnation along with hopeless attempts to reboot the rotting economy pushed USSR on the verge of starvation. As to the west, have you forgotten grain ships that provided much needed food aid that prevented the worst? Beyond that, nobody in the west really cares or ever cared what went on in Russia. Russian obsession with the US and the vast conspiracy theories are merely a manifestation of your inferiority complex. You may think of yourself as the Third Rome and a superpower, but the size of your economy does not support the delusion; you're just a bunch of losers who inherited nukes. The rest of your comment is a bitter vatnik blab that doesn't deserve a reply. You may blame the CIA, Ukrainian-Jewish cryptonazis, etc all you want, but unless you get rid of this loser mentality and blame game, face your past crimes like Germans have and seek reconciliation with your victims, develop a free society that respects human rights, establish mutually beneficial relations with neighbors, and start participating in the global economy in a constructive manner like the rest, you'll never live even remotely as well as people in the west do. That's a cold hard fact that you can not bypass with rhetorics, propaganda, misdirections and lies. Cynicism of Russian population - of which you are a perfect specimen - is perhaps the biggest obstacle to development in Russia. It leads to grassroot-level inability to take responsibility and cooperate in things like HOAs, and poisons the whole society as it leaks upstream to local governments, federal government, business culture, etc. Once you've poisoned everything and have a failed state on your hands, you blame the CIA. If you dropped cynicism, stopped mocking """""democracy""""", took responsibility and actually tried to work with each other in the name of common good, perhaps you wouldn't be such a shithole and would see the same fast development as everyone else who have taken this path have since 1991? Perhaps there would not be a need for daily terror attacks against Ukrainian cities to salvage the image of your god-emperor in that world?

chrysler 3y ago

>> Yep, this is typical of Westerners. We know you Russians are dumb and don't appreciate our "great democracy". Yeah, we had a taste of it in the 1990s. USA came and destroyed the country, economy, jobs, the future. CIA "advisors" with their "shock therapy" destroyed economy overnight, put dumb drunkard Yeltsin in power, and stole everything valuable they could get a hold of. >> People here were dying of hunger, but West was extremely happy with the "democracy" they built here. Please spare me of this pathetic loser mentality that blames all of your failures on someone else. The CIA did not force upon you Stalin and the murder of millions home and abroad, nor did the CIA choose you Brezhnev and stagnation in all walks of life, nor did the CIA lock up in psychiatric hospitals the people trying to change the system. It was your own making that by the end of 1980s, the costly war in Afghanistan, industrial accidents like Chernobyl, and stagnation along with hopeless attempts to reboot the rotting economy pushed USSR on the verge of starvation. As to the west, have you forgotten grain ships that provided much needed food aid that prevented the worst? Beyond that, nobody in the west really cares or ever cared what went on in Russia. Russian obsession with the US and the vast conspiracy theories are merely a manifestation of your inferiority complex. You may think of yourself as the Third Rome and a superpower, but the size of your economy does not support the delusion; you're just a bunch of losers who inherited nukes. The rest of your comment is a bitter vatnik blab that doesn't deserve a reply. You may blame the CIA, Ukrainian-Jewish cryptonazis, etc all you want, but unless you get rid of this loser mentality and blame game, face your past crimes like Germans have and seek reconciliation with your victims, develop a free society that respects human rights, establish mutually beneficial relations with neighbors, and start participating in the global economy in a constructive manner like the rest, you'll never live even remotely as well as people in the west do. That's a cold hard fact that you can not bypass with rhetorics, propaganda, misdirections and lies. Cynicism of Russian population - of which you are a perfect specimen - is perhaps the biggest obstacle to development in Russia. It leads to grassroot-level inability to take responsibility and cooperate in things like HOAs, and poisons the whole society as it leaks upstream to local governments, federal government, business culture, etc. Once you've poisoned everything and have a failed state on your hands, you blame the CIA. If you dropped cynicism, stopped mocking """""democracy""""", took responsibility and actually tried to work with each other in the name of common good, perhaps you wouldn't be such a shithole and would see the same fast development as everyone else who have taken this path have since 1991? Perhaps there would not be a need for daily terror attacks against Ukrainian cities to salvage the image of your god-emperor in that world?