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While I agree with your point somewhat, the scale is completely different. Its not a black and white thing. I know a lot of people will disagree with this state

by amf12 3y ago

While I agree with your point somewhat, the scale is completely different. Its not a black and white thing. I know a lot of people will disagree with this statement though.

Moldoteck 3y ago
What do you mean the scale is different
- 8note 3y ago
  Yeah, how many houses are there?
aaomidi 3y ago
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Tade0 3y ago
The main issue in preventing child abuse is that there are simply not enough resources allocated to handle each case - especially in a timely manner. More surveillance just means more cases in the backlog, so contrary to what people wanting to implement it are saying, it doesn't get us any closer to the goal.
- BLKNSLVR 3y ago
  I would like to present examples: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-06-21/ombudsman-investigation-child-protection-failings/102502594 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-06-21/ombudsman-investigati... https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-09/child-protection-workers-leaving-kids-with-carers-no-checks/102304240 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-09/child-protection-work... https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-06/high-risk-paedophile-prison-release/102312516 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-06/high-risk-paedophile-...
  - qingcharles 3y ago
    I know here in Illinois, USA if your parole specifies treatment (e.g. sex counseling, criminal behavioral thinking counseling etc) then you can voluntarily skip all that by just spending half your parole time in prison and leave with no restrictions and no therapy. This happens to a lot of inmates involuntarily because the prison system can't find anywhere to house them, so they are forced to keep them in prison and then release them with no help and no support.
icehawk 3y ago
How big is this scale difference in orders of magnitude?
ghnws 3y ago
I don't see how scanning for the material in major messaging platforms would impact anything. The people will just move to the next service that is encrypted. The technology exists. It can not be banned.

by amf12 3y ago

While I agree with your point somewhat, the scale is completely different. Its not a black and white thing. I know a lot of people will disagree with this statement though.

Moldoteck 3y ago

What do you mean the scale is different

8note 3y ago
Yeah, how many houses are there?

aaomidi 3y ago

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Tade0 3y ago

The main issue in preventing child abuse is that there are simply not enough resources allocated to handle each case - especially in a timely manner. More surveillance just means more cases in the backlog, so contrary to what people wanting to implement it are saying, it doesn't get us any closer to the goal.

BLKNSLVR 3y ago
I would like to present examples: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-06-21/ombudsman-investigation-child-protection-failings/102502594 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-06-21/ombudsman-investigati... https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-09/child-protection-workers-leaving-kids-with-carers-no-checks/102304240 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-09/child-protection-work... https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-06/high-risk-paedophile-prison-release/102312516 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-06/high-risk-paedophile-...
- qingcharles 3y ago
  I know here in Illinois, USA if your parole specifies treatment (e.g. sex counseling, criminal behavioral thinking counseling etc) then you can voluntarily skip all that by just spending half your parole time in prison and leave with no restrictions and no therapy. This happens to a lot of inmates involuntarily because the prison system can't find anywhere to house them, so they are forced to keep them in prison and then release them with no help and no support.

icehawk 3y ago

How big is this scale difference in orders of magnitude?

ghnws 3y ago

I don't see how scanning for the material in major messaging platforms would impact anything. The people will just move to the next service that is encrypted. The technology exists. It can not be banned.