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Where the same methods are used a higher quality products does make a significant difference. Denser growth means it's harder for pests to damage and water to
by DropInIn 3y ago
Where the same methods are used a higher quality products does make a significant difference.
Denser growth means it's harder for pests to damage and water to penetrate.
My mom's place is build with high grade fir for every stud and beam and there's clear differences in how it's holding up to contemporaries built using pine from the same era (old growth too). Materials make a difference.
- eropple 3y agoMost firs and pines tend to be around the same density (around 25-28 lb/ft^3). Wood isn't magic and no common softwood is particularly moisture resistant. It's more likely that the envelope of the house was built better than anything to do with the framing materials.
- DropInIn 3y agoThis wood breaks screws and bends nails.... I really question if you comprehend the type of wood I'm talking about. The contemporary pine is like butter by comparison...
- eropple 3y agoWhat species, what country? Because absolutely no softwood in North America does this. You can run Deckmates into the oldest pine you want all day. (And hardness has little to do with the strength or survivability of a constructed building.)
- DropInIn 3y agoNorth Central coast BC, looks and smells like fir And it absolutely 100% does, as I've had it happen to me many times. It also gives circ saws a hell of a time. Don't know how to prove this given that's an 18 hour drive from me and she's not currently doing renos....
- ChoGGi 3y agoYeah it's fir, I'm next door to you in southern Alberta. You'll find it in older houses, I keep it whenever I come across it.
- DropInIn 3y agoYea I'm wondering if we just had more of it left more recently than the Yanks and thus most of them have absolutely zero clue about this as they literally had zero of this type of material in any of their old construction aside from historic homes with listed status...
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- nunuvit 3y ago> This wood breaks screws and bends nails While driving the fastener, or over time while the structure settles? Either way, I can't see how this is a problem with the wood itself. The structural design and material properties have to be specified in a compatible way. The only three options are the spec is wrong, the materials are out of spec, or the engineer considers it a non-issue.