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I'm not even sure he's above average, it seems to me like he could have closed down Alameda, hired some compliance professionals to bring FTX into compliance wi

I'm not even sure he's above average, it seems to me like he could have closed down Alameda, hired some compliance professionals to bring FTX into compliance with the law, and been a) a billionaire and b) not in jail for his trouble. He seems to be really pretty thick

paulpauper 3y ago
I'm not even sure he's above average...He seems to be really pretty thick He got into MIT where he excelled and then a job at Jane Street. Even really smart people get rejected from MIT and Jane Street. he may be a fool and delusional but he's not thick .
- networkchad 3y ago
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- stcroixx 3y ago
  You don’t question his family connections being the reason he got into these places rather than merit?
- telotortium 3y ago
  Yes, exactly, that's why he's 130 IQ (okay, probably a bit more) and not 150 IQ. While 130 IQ wouldn't ordinarily be good enough to get into MIT for a non-affirmative action applicant, he's the son of two prominent Stanford professors. They will have encouraged him to have academic interests and given him all the resources to appear precocious during his teenage years - research during high school is an obvious way his parents could have burnished his college application, and most research doesn't require especially high levels of intelligence, particularly at the lab assistant level that a high schooler would be employed at. Easy enough for his parents to call in some favors to get his name added to a paper. In a pinch, SBF probably indicated somewhere on his application who his parents are - not in a bombastic way, but something that the application committee would pick up on. Academics at HYPS-level schools tend to help each other out. As for Jane Street, it is a hard place to get into, but MIT is one of the few places where there's an established interview pipeline, which definitely makes it possible for a non-genius to have some a chance of passing. Before Cracking the Coding Interview, it was much harder to learn how FAANG interviews worked ahead of time - same thing applies. Saying that SBF is "average", if that means 100 IQ, is ludicrous, but SBF is merely very bright, not a genius.
  - paulpauper 3y ago
    130 a long way from 'pretty thick'.
    - martin8412 3y ago
      Yet, he can't stop running his mouth incriminating himself further. They had a chat group literally named wire fraud .. A first semester law/finance student from a bottom tier university would know to shut your mouth and not document your crimes..
      - smallkitten 3y ago
        It’s not an intelligence thing, it’s a function of psychology. He’s in denial about how much trouble he’s in. Who wouldn’t be? It’s hard to admit to yourself you’re facing years of jail time. Running his mouth is his way of living in a reality where he still has a measure of control over things. This is more on the spectrum of delusion and delusion has nothing to do with intelligence. Very intelligent people can be highly delusional.
lazide 3y ago
Unlikely - there is no non-fraudulent ‘meat’ in those businesses.

paulpauper 3y ago

I'm not even sure he's above average...He seems to be really pretty thick He got into MIT where he excelled and then a job at Jane Street. Even really smart people get rejected from MIT and Jane Street. he may be a fool and delusional but he's not thick .

networkchad 3y ago
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stcroixx 3y ago
You don’t question his family connections being the reason he got into these places rather than merit?
telotortium 3y ago
Yes, exactly, that's why he's 130 IQ (okay, probably a bit more) and not 150 IQ. While 130 IQ wouldn't ordinarily be good enough to get into MIT for a non-affirmative action applicant, he's the son of two prominent Stanford professors. They will have encouraged him to have academic interests and given him all the resources to appear precocious during his teenage years - research during high school is an obvious way his parents could have burnished his college application, and most research doesn't require especially high levels of intelligence, particularly at the lab assistant level that a high schooler would be employed at. Easy enough for his parents to call in some favors to get his name added to a paper. In a pinch, SBF probably indicated somewhere on his application who his parents are - not in a bombastic way, but something that the application committee would pick up on. Academics at HYPS-level schools tend to help each other out. As for Jane Street, it is a hard place to get into, but MIT is one of the few places where there's an established interview pipeline, which definitely makes it possible for a non-genius to have some a chance of passing. Before Cracking the Coding Interview, it was much harder to learn how FAANG interviews worked ahead of time - same thing applies. Saying that SBF is "average", if that means 100 IQ, is ludicrous, but SBF is merely very bright, not a genius.
- paulpauper 3y ago
  130 a long way from 'pretty thick'.
  - martin8412 3y ago
    Yet, he can't stop running his mouth incriminating himself further. They had a chat group literally named wire fraud .. A first semester law/finance student from a bottom tier university would know to shut your mouth and not document your crimes..
    - smallkitten 3y ago
      It’s not an intelligence thing, it’s a function of psychology. He’s in denial about how much trouble he’s in. Who wouldn’t be? It’s hard to admit to yourself you’re facing years of jail time. Running his mouth is his way of living in a reality where he still has a measure of control over things. This is more on the spectrum of delusion and delusion has nothing to do with intelligence. Very intelligent people can be highly delusional.

lazide 3y ago

Unlikely - there is no non-fraudulent ‘meat’ in those businesses.