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If Tesla is any indication, they'll be chock full of unnecessary complex gimmicks that will constantly break and need servicing. I once helped someone with a f

If Tesla is any indication, they'll be chock full of unnecessary complex gimmicks that will constantly break and need servicing. I once helped someone with a flat tire in a Model S who had zip ties dangling from every door handle. The "present mechanism" had failed in every door, look it up, it's a known problem of wire fatigue caused by the present mechanism's repetitive movement breaking the door handle. Imagine owning a Model X at 150,000 miles. I watched kids have to crawl under the rear "gullwing" door of a fresh one last month. It refused to open beyond a small gap, despite there being no obstructions. Impatient parent in the driver's seat just shouted in frustration for them to crawl in after throwing his hands up at the steering wheel. Trash needs lots of maintenance to keep on the road... those things are like Homer Simpson mobiles.

panick21_ 3y ago
Yes a Tesla takes more maintenance then a stock Honda Civic. But if you actually compare like for like in terms of vehicle size and price, its quite different. People hear act like Tesla are full of gimmicks and the cars it competes with are cars from the 1970s. But also you are just mostly wrong, actual data simply says something different. I don't have the links, but there have been studies on the this and Tesla comes out looking pretty good.
jefft255 3y ago
Looking forward to an electric car that’s not a gadget on wheels. Oh well that’s probably never going to happen
m463 3y ago
Thought I should mention my experience: - 2 door handles broken. - the door panels have been opened so many times, now they are perpetually loose and the door closes with a weird sound. - driver floor mats came loose multiple times. - one rear drive motor failure. (note that apart from tesla claims, two drive motors does NOT mean you can continue the trip on the remaining one) - 4 flat tires - no spare, so each one ended up requiring a flatbed. Tesla's roadside assistance is rarely timely. Actually any roadside assitance. (I'm ordering a cheater spare) - rear defrost wires most don't heat. - touchscreen developed bubbles - front spoiler broke - rear ultrasonic sensor fell inside bumper now the warranty expired, and of course a third door handle broke. Also, be careful of what you wish for. they seem to minimize "unnecessary complex gimmicks" by removing controls. That means everything goes on the touchscreen and you become a terrible driver because you cannot control your car easily. Really, tesla needs decent dedicated controls with honda attention to detail and reliability.
- sizzle 3y ago
  "Really, tesla needs decent dedicated controls with honda attention to detail and reliability." This is a powerful statement, I really hope it becomes true. I want the car but not the liabilities and downtime.

panick21_ 3y ago

Yes a Tesla takes more maintenance then a stock Honda Civic. But if you actually compare like for like in terms of vehicle size and price, its quite different. People hear act like Tesla are full of gimmicks and the cars it competes with are cars from the 1970s. But also you are just mostly wrong, actual data simply says something different. I don't have the links, but there have been studies on the this and Tesla comes out looking pretty good.

jefft255 3y ago

Looking forward to an electric car that’s not a gadget on wheels. Oh well that’s probably never going to happen

m463 3y ago

Thought I should mention my experience: - 2 door handles broken. - the door panels have been opened so many times, now they are perpetually loose and the door closes with a weird sound. - driver floor mats came loose multiple times. - one rear drive motor failure. (note that apart from tesla claims, two drive motors does NOT mean you can continue the trip on the remaining one) - 4 flat tires - no spare, so each one ended up requiring a flatbed. Tesla's roadside assistance is rarely timely. Actually any roadside assitance. (I'm ordering a cheater spare) - rear defrost wires most don't heat. - touchscreen developed bubbles - front spoiler broke - rear ultrasonic sensor fell inside bumper now the warranty expired, and of course a third door handle broke. Also, be careful of what you wish for. they seem to minimize "unnecessary complex gimmicks" by removing controls. That means everything goes on the touchscreen and you become a terrible driver because you cannot control your car easily. Really, tesla needs decent dedicated controls with honda attention to detail and reliability.

sizzle 3y ago
"Really, tesla needs decent dedicated controls with honda attention to detail and reliability." This is a powerful statement, I really hope it becomes true. I want the car but not the liabilities and downtime.