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Is this realistic enough yet that it could deprecate careers held by the likes of Ghislaine Maxwell? Could intelligence agencies now target someone and select

Is this realistic enough yet that it could deprecate careers held by the likes of Ghislaine Maxwell? Could intelligence agencies now target someone and select a child in their proximity or family circle, click a button and blackmail/destroy that person? What details would AI always get wrong?

soligern 3y ago
Of course it’s good enough. Have you seen the stuff Midjourney can generate?
- LinuxBender 3y ago
  It's realistic in the sense they look human but could it be realistic in enough detail that if a child was sitting at the desk of an investigator and they were watching the evidence, would they be convinced it is the child sitting at their desk and the perp they just locked up?
  - soligern 3y ago
    I tried reading this a few times but it doesn’t make sense.
    - LinuxBender 3y ago
      You are a detective. There is a purported victim in front of you IRL. Can you verify said victim is the person in the picture? The decision you make may tear apart a family and destroy a persons life.
      - soligern 3y ago
        Are you trying to say an AI could generate a likeness of a real child? I’m sure it’s possible to get close especially since it generates images of celebrities very well.
secfirstmd 3y ago
You could do that with Photoshop already. Blackmail as an intelligence recruitment technique, especially with something so fake, is really very limited in it's utility.
- LinuxBender 3y ago
  Oh these are just pictures and not also videos? I guess that is indeed old hat. Maybe this one at least gets birth marks right by learning from Facebook and Instagram swimming photos.
tacocataco 3y ago
With the resources of a nation state, why not just put real child porn on a device or two and call the local authorities?
- LinuxBender 3y ago
  I think using the real people involved has a greater effect in destroying them and any group they are associated with. Imagine for example someone made realistic content of a politician and their grand-children and that content is "leaked", regardless of legal outcome they would be immediately and permanently destroyed. Everyone would distance themselves from them and anyone they worked with. But you could be right. I could be over-thinking this.

soligern 3y ago

Of course it’s good enough. Have you seen the stuff Midjourney can generate?

LinuxBender 3y ago
It's realistic in the sense they look human but could it be realistic in enough detail that if a child was sitting at the desk of an investigator and they were watching the evidence, would they be convinced it is the child sitting at their desk and the perp they just locked up?
- soligern 3y ago
  I tried reading this a few times but it doesn’t make sense.
  - LinuxBender 3y ago
    You are a detective. There is a purported victim in front of you IRL. Can you verify said victim is the person in the picture? The decision you make may tear apart a family and destroy a persons life.
    - soligern 3y ago
      Are you trying to say an AI could generate a likeness of a real child? I’m sure it’s possible to get close especially since it generates images of celebrities very well.

secfirstmd 3y ago

You could do that with Photoshop already. Blackmail as an intelligence recruitment technique, especially with something so fake, is really very limited in it's utility.

LinuxBender 3y ago
Oh these are just pictures and not also videos? I guess that is indeed old hat. Maybe this one at least gets birth marks right by learning from Facebook and Instagram swimming photos.

tacocataco 3y ago

With the resources of a nation state, why not just put real child porn on a device or two and call the local authorities?

LinuxBender 3y ago
I think using the real people involved has a greater effect in destroying them and any group they are associated with. Imagine for example someone made realistic content of a politician and their grand-children and that content is "leaked", regardless of legal outcome they would be immediately and permanently destroyed. Everyone would distance themselves from them and anyone they worked with. But you could be right. I could be over-thinking this.