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A 32-Bit Computer Inside Terraria [video]

188 points by lawrenceyan 3y ago

ZiiS 3y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36501742 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36501742
herval11 3y ago
Ah, how superfluous it is now to state the obvious: computers, those magnificent machines, are merely tools designed for specific tasks. Who would have thought that the core mechanism need not always be a humble transistor? Oh, the audacity to fashion a computer out of pipes and water, or even the cheekiness of constructing one with the enchanting language of CSS! Truly, it is a revelation of the ages that we can now recreate the same wonders in the pixelated realms of Minecraft or Terraria. How utterly passé, my dear interlocutor, but I must commend the sardonic effort to erect a cathedral of toothpicks. Bravo, good sir or madam, for your ironic craftsmanship knows no bounds!
pelagicAustral 3y ago
awww man! here we go again, impostor syndrome kicking in.
haolez 3y ago
Wow. If you want to quickly see the insanity of this: https://youtu.be/zXPiqk0-zDY?t=550 https://youtu.be/zXPiqk0-zDY?t=550
rinzlerman 3y ago
Mind blowing. How can some one be so talented, I even fail to comprehend his work.
vincent-manis 3y ago
I am thinking back to when I was a wunderkind. If I'd had access to modern technology (software and hardware) back then, could I have done anything like this? NO!
wiederholen 3y ago
Pyrotherapy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrotherapy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrotherapy
russellbeattie 3y ago
I was already impressed, then I got to the part where he wrote a tool chain with Rust and a test suite for RISC-V which runs in game. Then I decided the kid was a young whippersnapper who's way too big for his britches and "kids these days" and all the other things old people think to make themselves feel better when they're being obsoleted.
- ok_dad 3y ago
  I figure I would never have competed with this kid; he’s making people like jwz or antirez obsolete, not me! I’ll always be way more mediocre than this person.
  - smaudet 3y ago
    I don't think he's dumb, but I also think a lot of people underestimate what they are capable of. Its a neat project, but it is one of those lots-of-grinding projects. Any tech professional should be able to pull this off, reasons abound why they won't (not motivated/mentally exhausted from work BS/have lives and no longer have infinite free time). So I think "intelligent, and hard working", not "oh man could I never do something like that". Most of us spend time doing other, less geeky things, like reading, media consumption (spending time on HN). Sure, as we get older, we "slow down", but that's OK - I could write up game engines or other complex projects in a couple weeks when I was younger, but I would also make a lot of mistakes. Stuff is mostly intuitive now.
misprit7 3y ago
I'm the one who made this. The GitHub link was posted on HN yesterday as well, but I'm happy to answer any questions here if people have any!
- matttb 3y ago
  The post from yesterday: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36501742 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36501742
- dillutedfixer 3y ago
  I just want to say that this is incredibly impressive on so many levels. Your technical skills are obviously amazing but I really love how you were able to put this all together into an entertaining and well-produced video that anyone could understand. If you ever want to get paid 1/4 of what I'm sure you'll make as an engineer, you'd make a great teacher ;)
  - misprit7 3y ago
    Thanks, was definitely hard to strike a balance between being understandable for non-nerds but also convey all the technical difficulties/achievements, but I'm pretty happy with how it turned out .
- ftxbro 3y ago
  That is amazing I understand how powerful of nerd skills it took to do all those steps. Maybe the most amazing one to me is that terraria mod to speed up their wiring code without changing any other behavior, and the combination of skills to do such nerdy stuff and also finish the project in a form that normies can appreciate and also making a popularization video of it. It's a very useful combo of skills and interests. I guess I have a question, I know you did it yourself but it looks like you were in some community. Is it like a discord channel or was it some of your classmates or what?
  - misprit7 3y ago
    It was pretty much just me by myself on this other than for the raycaster engine, which was done by a friend of mine near the end. I'm on a few Discord servers on Minecraft computing, but it's pretty vastly different and the biggest parallel is just with high level accelerator stuff.
billehunt 3y ago
Wow. So cool.
harha_ 3y ago
It's an insane achievement.
deleted 3y ago
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kortex 3y ago
Man, rustc compiling of binaries that run on this computer, docker, github CI, this kid's going places (no idea how old he is, but he's squarely younger than me, a millennial, ergo, kid).
jamestimmins 3y ago
If learning this type of low-level CS is interesting, I can't recommend the NAND to Tetris course highly enough (https://www.coursera.org/learn/build-a-computer https://www.coursera.org/learn/build-a-computer). You start with a NAND gate (NOT AND) and built the simple gates, multiplexers, ALU, machine language, VM, compiler for a high level lang, OS, graphics engine, culminating with a game you design that runs on this computer. There's also a book with the same contents (https://www.nand2tetris.org/book https://www.nand2tetris.org/book).
umvi 3y ago
Nice. Would it have been faster to "just" write a Verilog => Terraria save file compiler?
emrah 3y ago
People were able to build computers in many games like minecraft, factoria, terreria etc. I haven't played these games so I'm curious what kind of features allow for "computers" to be built inside games?
- seanthemon 3y ago
  Wires, gates, outputs & inputs and syncing - the core ingredients of computer-in-a-computer
- serf 3y ago
  in-game constructors that represent either logic gates, or in some cases rudimentary circuit primitives that can then be used to product logic gates themselves. Rust (the game) for example has a wiring system that is somewhat reminiscent of electrical wires (there is an amperage/electron concept that makes it tick), but the appliances that plug into the electrical system represent logic gates like AND/OR/NOR/XOR, etc; so that system kind of hits both the electricity and the logic metaphors. One can make complex memory structures/counters/timers/etc, and they may output/control in-game structures like doors/turrets/alarms/displays/etc. a popular example would be a turret that fires upon an enemy that has been trapped in a house upon triggering a motion sensing device, initating a countdown, and powering up the turret.
- vintermann 3y ago
  I'm pretty sure the first "computer in a sandbox game" was Jong's computer in Dwarf Fortress, implemented in that game's fluid pressure mechanics, in early 2010. That was certainly what inspired many others to add deliberately circuit-y things to their games that could be be used to build computers - most notably Minecraft's redstone and Terraria's wires. In theory all you need is a way to implement a nand gate, and really good simulation speed.
wordpad25 3y ago
This is so much more fun than grinding leetcode if your eventual goal is to work for a big tech company
ngshiheng 3y ago
This is one of the craziest (coolest) things that I've seen on the Internet. Hats off to you man. Mad respect.

188 points by lawrenceyan 3y ago

ZiiS 3y ago

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36501742 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36501742

Ah, how superfluous it is now to state the obvious: computers, those magnificent machines, are merely tools designed for specific tasks. Who would have thought that the core mechanism need not always be a humble transistor? Oh, the audacity to fashion a computer out of pipes and water, or even the cheekiness of constructing one with the enchanting language of CSS! Truly, it is a revelation of the ages that we can now recreate the same wonders in the pixelated realms of Minecraft or Terraria. How utterly passé, my dear interlocutor, but I must commend the sardonic effort to erect a cathedral of toothpicks. Bravo, good sir or madam, for your ironic craftsmanship knows no bounds!

pelagicAustral 3y ago

awww man! here we go again, impostor syndrome kicking in.

haolez 3y ago

Wow. If you want to quickly see the insanity of this: https://youtu.be/zXPiqk0-zDY?t=550 https://youtu.be/zXPiqk0-zDY?t=550

rinzlerman 3y ago

Mind blowing. How can some one be so talented, I even fail to comprehend his work.

vincent-manis 3y ago

I am thinking back to when I was a wunderkind. If I'd had access to modern technology (software and hardware) back then, could I have done anything like this? NO!

wiederholen 3y ago

Pyrotherapy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrotherapy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrotherapy

russellbeattie 3y ago

I was already impressed, then I got to the part where he wrote a tool chain with Rust and a test suite for RISC-V which runs in game. Then I decided the kid was a young whippersnapper who's way too big for his britches and "kids these days" and all the other things old people think to make themselves feel better when they're being obsoleted.

ok_dad 3y ago
I figure I would never have competed with this kid; he’s making people like jwz or antirez obsolete, not me! I’ll always be way more mediocre than this person.
- smaudet 3y ago
  I don't think he's dumb, but I also think a lot of people underestimate what they are capable of. Its a neat project, but it is one of those lots-of-grinding projects. Any tech professional should be able to pull this off, reasons abound why they won't (not motivated/mentally exhausted from work BS/have lives and no longer have infinite free time). So I think "intelligent, and hard working", not "oh man could I never do something like that". Most of us spend time doing other, less geeky things, like reading, media consumption (spending time on HN). Sure, as we get older, we "slow down", but that's OK - I could write up game engines or other complex projects in a couple weeks when I was younger, but I would also make a lot of mistakes. Stuff is mostly intuitive now.

misprit7 3y ago

I'm the one who made this. The GitHub link was posted on HN yesterday as well, but I'm happy to answer any questions here if people have any!

matttb 3y ago
The post from yesterday: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36501742 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36501742
dillutedfixer 3y ago
I just want to say that this is incredibly impressive on so many levels. Your technical skills are obviously amazing but I really love how you were able to put this all together into an entertaining and well-produced video that anyone could understand. If you ever want to get paid 1/4 of what I'm sure you'll make as an engineer, you'd make a great teacher ;)
- misprit7 3y ago
  Thanks, was definitely hard to strike a balance between being understandable for non-nerds but also convey all the technical difficulties/achievements, but I'm pretty happy with how it turned out .
ftxbro 3y ago
That is amazing I understand how powerful of nerd skills it took to do all those steps. Maybe the most amazing one to me is that terraria mod to speed up their wiring code without changing any other behavior, and the combination of skills to do such nerdy stuff and also finish the project in a form that normies can appreciate and also making a popularization video of it. It's a very useful combo of skills and interests. I guess I have a question, I know you did it yourself but it looks like you were in some community. Is it like a discord channel or was it some of your classmates or what?
- misprit7 3y ago
  It was pretty much just me by myself on this other than for the raycaster engine, which was done by a friend of mine near the end. I'm on a few Discord servers on Minecraft computing, but it's pretty vastly different and the biggest parallel is just with high level accelerator stuff.

billehunt 3y ago

Wow. So cool.

harha_ 3y ago

It's an insane achievement.

deleted 3y ago

[deleted]

kortex 3y ago

Man, rustc compiling of binaries that run on this computer, docker, github CI, this kid's going places (no idea how old he is, but he's squarely younger than me, a millennial, ergo, kid).

jamestimmins 3y ago

If learning this type of low-level CS is interesting, I can't recommend the NAND to Tetris course highly enough (https://www.coursera.org/learn/build-a-computer https://www.coursera.org/learn/build-a-computer). You start with a NAND gate (NOT AND) and built the simple gates, multiplexers, ALU, machine language, VM, compiler for a high level lang, OS, graphics engine, culminating with a game you design that runs on this computer. There's also a book with the same contents (https://www.nand2tetris.org/book https://www.nand2tetris.org/book).

umvi 3y ago

Nice. Would it have been faster to "just" write a Verilog => Terraria save file compiler?

emrah 3y ago

People were able to build computers in many games like minecraft, factoria, terreria etc. I haven't played these games so I'm curious what kind of features allow for "computers" to be built inside games?

seanthemon 3y ago
Wires, gates, outputs & inputs and syncing - the core ingredients of computer-in-a-computer
serf 3y ago
in-game constructors that represent either logic gates, or in some cases rudimentary circuit primitives that can then be used to product logic gates themselves. Rust (the game) for example has a wiring system that is somewhat reminiscent of electrical wires (there is an amperage/electron concept that makes it tick), but the appliances that plug into the electrical system represent logic gates like AND/OR/NOR/XOR, etc; so that system kind of hits both the electricity and the logic metaphors. One can make complex memory structures/counters/timers/etc, and they may output/control in-game structures like doors/turrets/alarms/displays/etc. a popular example would be a turret that fires upon an enemy that has been trapped in a house upon triggering a motion sensing device, initating a countdown, and powering up the turret.
vintermann 3y ago
I'm pretty sure the first "computer in a sandbox game" was Jong's computer in Dwarf Fortress, implemented in that game's fluid pressure mechanics, in early 2010. That was certainly what inspired many others to add deliberately circuit-y things to their games that could be be used to build computers - most notably Minecraft's redstone and Terraria's wires. In theory all you need is a way to implement a nand gate, and really good simulation speed.

wordpad25 3y ago

This is so much more fun than grinding leetcode if your eventual goal is to work for a big tech company

ngshiheng 3y ago

This is one of the craziest (coolest) things that I've seen on the Internet. Hats off to you man. Mad respect.