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Yes I definitely want my CEO to be on psychedelics while signing major sales contracts. Same goes for doctors (especially surgeons) and special forces operators

Yes I definitely want my CEO to be on psychedelics while signing major sales contracts. Same goes for doctors (especially surgeons) and special forces operators. Many of the things that are popular among tech circles are actually researched. For example Ketamine is available in Switzerland for treatment of depression, and there's a lot of know-how on the topic. I reckon you could fly here for treatment if you can afford to live in the area for a while. Spoiler: it's not a silver bullet. It's a bit like when crypto bros slowly rediscover every single widely accepted idea for regulating finance, securities, disclosure, trading, ...

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ng12 3y ago
Honestly I probably want all those people to be comfortably enjoying psychedelics, just not while on the clock.
ianbutler 3y ago
Yeah. You know they're not tripping at work right?
- HDThoreaun 3y ago
  Some of them absolutely are
- Blackthorn 3y ago
  There was a ridiculous time on Hacker News where there was at least an article a day about microdosing LSD at work.
  - ianbutler 3y ago
    You know microdosing doesn't make you trip right?
    - fjeosnsheiwnw 3y ago
      You know making every single point by writing a disingenuous question like this is an obnoxious, annoying type of rhetoric, right? There is almost no circumstance where “you know … right?” makes you worthwhile, pleasurable, or persuasive to talk to, particularly when it’s on a rhythm. It just makes you annoying, and usually confrontational and dismissive (as here), and it goes a long way to demonstrating how you feel about yourself compared to others (hint: not a good look if your goal is to persuade).
      - ianbutler 3y ago
        I'm not trying to be pleasant or persuasive. These people are uninformed making sweeping generalizations based on nothing. I just can't actively insult them because of site rules. For the record, I've never microdosed, but I do have the courtesy to inform myself at a basic level before jumping into threads to shit on other people who do. You can't bring nothing to the table and expect other people to hold your hand gently coaching you through a basic google search. Fuck that.
        dsabanin 3y ago
        How does one become always aware in advance of having incomplete or misleading information on every subject that comes up in a conversation? I think some politeness and courtesy should be granted in those situations. Especially if you allow for the fact that it is you who could be having incomplete or biased information as well?
        ianbutler 3y ago
        This isn't a conversation though, this is a forum. You (the general you) have the ability to google and fully prepare statements with however much time you want to. You can even set a default time limit in the settings on your user profile on HN to give you time before a comment is visible to check yourself and rework a comment if you want. I use it on pretty much every comment. On a forum I would expect someone participating in a thread making an assertive comment to do a few seconds of due diligence. They don't have to have perfect information, or even be correct after they do search, but its pretty obvious when you just come in with 0 information at all. Normally that doesn't even bother me, but when an uninformed comment is used to belittle people or take an undeserved moral position, then yeah, I get pretty pissed.
jrflowers 3y ago
> Yes I definitely want my CEO to be on psychedelics while signing major sales contracts. This is a good point. Doing a drug once means you’re doing it constantly until you die. This is why every person to ever take LSD is currently in a jam band and why all of those people that did cocaine in the 80s are long dead from sleep deprivation.
cwkoss 3y ago
- Any CEO who would choose to be tripping for a major contract signing is reckless in a way that would manifest itself negatively regardless of availability of psychedelics. - Ketamine is also available for depression treatment in America. - I don't get the analogy. Do you just dislike fads?

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ng12 3y ago

Honestly I probably want all those people to be comfortably enjoying psychedelics, just not while on the clock.

ianbutler 3y ago

Yeah. You know they're not tripping at work right?

HDThoreaun 3y ago
Some of them absolutely are
Blackthorn 3y ago
There was a ridiculous time on Hacker News where there was at least an article a day about microdosing LSD at work.
- ianbutler 3y ago
  You know microdosing doesn't make you trip right?
  - fjeosnsheiwnw 3y ago
    You know making every single point by writing a disingenuous question like this is an obnoxious, annoying type of rhetoric, right? There is almost no circumstance where “you know … right?” makes you worthwhile, pleasurable, or persuasive to talk to, particularly when it’s on a rhythm. It just makes you annoying, and usually confrontational and dismissive (as here), and it goes a long way to demonstrating how you feel about yourself compared to others (hint: not a good look if your goal is to persuade).
    - ianbutler 3y ago
      I'm not trying to be pleasant or persuasive. These people are uninformed making sweeping generalizations based on nothing. I just can't actively insult them because of site rules. For the record, I've never microdosed, but I do have the courtesy to inform myself at a basic level before jumping into threads to shit on other people who do. You can't bring nothing to the table and expect other people to hold your hand gently coaching you through a basic google search. Fuck that.
      - dsabanin 3y ago
        How does one become always aware in advance of having incomplete or misleading information on every subject that comes up in a conversation? I think some politeness and courtesy should be granted in those situations. Especially if you allow for the fact that it is you who could be having incomplete or biased information as well?
        ianbutler 3y ago
        This isn't a conversation though, this is a forum. You (the general you) have the ability to google and fully prepare statements with however much time you want to. You can even set a default time limit in the settings on your user profile on HN to give you time before a comment is visible to check yourself and rework a comment if you want. I use it on pretty much every comment. On a forum I would expect someone participating in a thread making an assertive comment to do a few seconds of due diligence. They don't have to have perfect information, or even be correct after they do search, but its pretty obvious when you just come in with 0 information at all. Normally that doesn't even bother me, but when an uninformed comment is used to belittle people or take an undeserved moral position, then yeah, I get pretty pissed.

jrflowers 3y ago

> Yes I definitely want my CEO to be on psychedelics while signing major sales contracts. This is a good point. Doing a drug once means you’re doing it constantly until you die. This is why every person to ever take LSD is currently in a jam band and why all of those people that did cocaine in the 80s are long dead from sleep deprivation.

cwkoss 3y ago

- Any CEO who would choose to be tripping for a major contract signing is reckless in a way that would manifest itself negatively regardless of availability of psychedelics. - Ketamine is also available for depression treatment in America. - I don't get the analogy. Do you just dislike fads?