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> If Nuvia chip is anything close to M1 also then both Intel and AMD are going to have tough time. Who’s going to write a “Rosetta for Windows” that works seam

by f6v 3y ago

> If Nuvia chip is anything close to M1 also then both Intel and AMD are going to have tough time. Who’s going to write a “Rosetta for Windows” that works seamlessly though?

kritr 3y ago
Isn’t that already available on Windows?
- f6v 3y ago
  From reading the reviews my impression was that it was too slow.
CharlesW 3y ago
> Who’s going to write a “Rosetta for Windows” that works seamlessly though? Microsoft? https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/arm/apps-on-arm-x86-emulation https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/arm/apps-on-arm-x8...
- GeekyBear 3y ago
  They haven't shown any signs of doing a competent job on the $1,800 ARM Surface Pro 9. > My frustration with this computer wasn’t a workload thing. It didn’t start out fast and gradually slow down as I opened more things and started more processes. It was peppered with glitches and freezes from start to finish. I’d have only Slack open, and switching between channels would still take almost three seconds (yes, I timed it on my phone). Spotify, also with nothing in the background, would take 11 seconds to open, then be frozen for another four seconds before I could finally press play. When I typed in Chrome, I often saw significant lag, which led to all kinds of typos (because my words weren’t coming out until well after I’d written them). I’d try to watch YouTube videos, and the video would freeze while the audio continued. I’d use the Surface Pen to annotate a PDF, and my strokes would either be frustratingly late or not show up at all. I’d try to open Lightroom, and it would freeze multiple times and then crash. https://www.theverge.com/23421326/microsoft-surface-pro-9-arm-qualcomm-sq3-review https://www.theverge.com/23421326/microsoft-surface-pro-9-ar...
  - f6v 3y ago
    ARM SP felt sluggish even without running x86 software when I held it in the store.
rektide 3y ago
Number of cores sold is I think quickly tipping towards the data center. The data center doesn't need x86 compatibility. The other bulk of thr market is mobile, which is almost entirely arm already.
notreallyauser 3y ago
Microsoft would need to do their part in the OS, but Apple reportedly didn't do all of Rosetta in house. (IBM now owns the start-up reported to have done the core.)
- GeekyBear 3y ago
  > Apple reportedly didn't do all of Rosetta in house You're talking about the 2011 version of Rosetta that allowed Intel Macs to run PPC software. >QuickTransit was a cross-platform virtualization program developed by Transitive Corporation. It allowed software compiled for one specific processor and operating system combination to be executed on a different processor and/or operating system architecture without source code or binary changes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QuickTransit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QuickTransit

by f6v 3y ago

> If Nuvia chip is anything close to M1 also then both Intel and AMD are going to have tough time. Who’s going to write a “Rosetta for Windows” that works seamlessly though?

kritr 3y ago

Isn’t that already available on Windows?

f6v 3y ago
From reading the reviews my impression was that it was too slow.

CharlesW 3y ago

> Who’s going to write a “Rosetta for Windows” that works seamlessly though? Microsoft? https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/arm/apps-on-arm-x86-emulation https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/arm/apps-on-arm-x8...

GeekyBear 3y ago
They haven't shown any signs of doing a competent job on the $1,800 ARM Surface Pro 9. > My frustration with this computer wasn’t a workload thing. It didn’t start out fast and gradually slow down as I opened more things and started more processes. It was peppered with glitches and freezes from start to finish. I’d have only Slack open, and switching between channels would still take almost three seconds (yes, I timed it on my phone). Spotify, also with nothing in the background, would take 11 seconds to open, then be frozen for another four seconds before I could finally press play. When I typed in Chrome, I often saw significant lag, which led to all kinds of typos (because my words weren’t coming out until well after I’d written them). I’d try to watch YouTube videos, and the video would freeze while the audio continued. I’d use the Surface Pen to annotate a PDF, and my strokes would either be frustratingly late or not show up at all. I’d try to open Lightroom, and it would freeze multiple times and then crash. https://www.theverge.com/23421326/microsoft-surface-pro-9-arm-qualcomm-sq3-review https://www.theverge.com/23421326/microsoft-surface-pro-9-ar...
- f6v 3y ago
  ARM SP felt sluggish even without running x86 software when I held it in the store.

rektide 3y ago

Number of cores sold is I think quickly tipping towards the data center. The data center doesn't need x86 compatibility. The other bulk of thr market is mobile, which is almost entirely arm already.

notreallyauser 3y ago

Microsoft would need to do their part in the OS, but Apple reportedly didn't do all of Rosetta in house. (IBM now owns the start-up reported to have done the core.)

GeekyBear 3y ago
> Apple reportedly didn't do all of Rosetta in house You're talking about the 2011 version of Rosetta that allowed Intel Macs to run PPC software. >QuickTransit was a cross-platform virtualization program developed by Transitive Corporation. It allowed software compiled for one specific processor and operating system combination to be executed on a different processor and/or operating system architecture without source code or binary changes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QuickTransit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QuickTransit