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"pretty shocking that all the charge networks are getting rug pulled because they couldn't figure out how to accept payment reliably." Is there a reference for

• throwaway5959 3y ago
  It’s not. I drive a CCS car. The reason EA and EVGo are getting demolished is due to the comically limited number of chargers they install per station (four commonly vs dozens at Tesla stations) and the unreliability of the chargers themselves. I’ve never had a problem with payment.
  • xeromal 3y ago
    Nothing more frustrating than going to a full charger with a line and driving over to another place that's open just for it to charge your card but fail to initialize.
  • rootusrootus 3y ago
    This is the big one for me, too. I've driven non-Tesla and Tesla EVs for years, and the big draw of the supercharger stations is that there's so many stalls that there's always one open. When I roadtrip with the CCS car, I get lucky when there's one of the four stalls available.
• willio58 3y ago
  I don't think the payment was the main issue, it's always been the overall reliability of the chargers not being great.
• hedora 3y ago
  Ford's press release cited a study where they had paid drivers go to random Blue Oval (their charge affiliate network) chargers and see whether they could charge or not. They said this was the main reason they were adopting the tesla standard. Anecdotally, 90% of the time I've been unable to charge at a Blue Oval certified network (I drive a BMW, but the list of networks is well-known), it has been a payment issue, not a CCS issue. Also, the Biden administration recognized that this was a problem, and built a payment availability SLA into the inflation reduction act.