5 ms·

CCS is done.

by b0sk 3y ago

CCS is done.

JumpCrisscross 3y ago
> CCS is done Who are the remaining CCS adherents?
- flutas 3y ago
  Hyundai is one I know of, but they've put out a "we're looking into swapping" statement. https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/23/23771215/hyundai-investor-day-ima-ev-platform-tesla-nacs-port https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/23/23771215/hyundai-investor...
- localhost 3y ago
  Porsche for one - don't know of others.
- mertd 3y ago
  All of Europe.
  - Signez 3y ago
    Not the same CCS port.
  - xeromal 3y ago
    I think in the post, context for CCS is CCS 1 which is the Americab variant. CCS 2 is not interoperable and not really useful for discussion here. Maybe Korea too? I can't remember.
- jeroenhd 3y ago
  Every other car except for the American models of Volvo and Tesla, from what I can tell. That said, there are two CCS standards, one for (older) Japanese and American vehicles (SAE J1772), and another widely used in Europe (IEC 62196 Type). Both have been designed to be as backwards compatible with older charging standards as possible. European Teslas ship with CCS Type 2 so I doubt this will have any impact on Volvos outside the USA.
  - throwaway5959 3y ago
    Ford and GM are going NACS as well.
    - WorldMaker 3y ago
      Plus Aptera and Rivian, if you want to include the smaller American companies.
      - throwaway5959 3y ago
        Aptera is so cool. Love that they’re based out of San Diego and do a lot of work in house.
        WorldMaker 3y ago
        I think so too. I've thrown a tiny bit of money at Aptera because I think they are the most interesting car company in America right now with the most interesting car planned for a US launch in the next couple of years. I'm following them with great interest.
        rasz 3y ago
        and still no product
- theluketaylor 3y ago
  VAG (Volkswagen, Audi, Porsche), Stellantis (Jeep, Dodge, RAM, Chrysler, Alfa Romeo), Hyundai-KIA, and all the Japanese OEMs are still on CCS. VAG created Electrify America as part of the dieselgate deal, and since it's the largest CCS network if they switch CCS is pretty much officially done in north america.
rtkwe 3y ago
CCS is still the standard for the entirety of the EU including Tesla's own cars. It may be dying in NA but the EU is still a large market and using a different plug isn't that big of a deal for the manufacturers.
- ryzvonusef 3y ago
  That's CCS 2, with a different port than the CCS 1, and while there might be software similarities, the different ports make it a different beast altogether.
sschueller 3y ago
*CCS1 not CCS2

CCS is done.

by b0sk 3y ago

CCS is done.

JumpCrisscross 3y ago

> CCS is done Who are the remaining CCS adherents?

flutas 3y ago
Hyundai is one I know of, but they've put out a "we're looking into swapping" statement. https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/23/23771215/hyundai-investor-day-ima-ev-platform-tesla-nacs-port https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/23/23771215/hyundai-investor...
localhost 3y ago
Porsche for one - don't know of others.
mertd 3y ago
All of Europe.
- Signez 3y ago
  Not the same CCS port.
- xeromal 3y ago
  I think in the post, context for CCS is CCS 1 which is the Americab variant. CCS 2 is not interoperable and not really useful for discussion here. Maybe Korea too? I can't remember.
jeroenhd 3y ago
Every other car except for the American models of Volvo and Tesla, from what I can tell. That said, there are two CCS standards, one for (older) Japanese and American vehicles (SAE J1772), and another widely used in Europe (IEC 62196 Type). Both have been designed to be as backwards compatible with older charging standards as possible. European Teslas ship with CCS Type 2 so I doubt this will have any impact on Volvos outside the USA.
- throwaway5959 3y ago
  Ford and GM are going NACS as well.
  - WorldMaker 3y ago
    Plus Aptera and Rivian, if you want to include the smaller American companies.
    - throwaway5959 3y ago
      Aptera is so cool. Love that they’re based out of San Diego and do a lot of work in house.
      - WorldMaker 3y ago
        I think so too. I've thrown a tiny bit of money at Aptera because I think they are the most interesting car company in America right now with the most interesting car planned for a US launch in the next couple of years. I'm following them with great interest.
      - rasz 3y ago
        and still no product
theluketaylor 3y ago
VAG (Volkswagen, Audi, Porsche), Stellantis (Jeep, Dodge, RAM, Chrysler, Alfa Romeo), Hyundai-KIA, and all the Japanese OEMs are still on CCS. VAG created Electrify America as part of the dieselgate deal, and since it's the largest CCS network if they switch CCS is pretty much officially done in north america.

rtkwe 3y ago

CCS is still the standard for the entirety of the EU including Tesla's own cars. It may be dying in NA but the EU is still a large market and using a different plug isn't that big of a deal for the manufacturers.

ryzvonusef 3y ago
That's CCS 2, with a different port than the CCS 1, and while there might be software similarities, the different ports make it a different beast altogether.

sschueller 3y ago

*CCS1 not CCS2