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The politically correct language police have got us so confused about sex and gender that we don't understand our own language anymore. Ships aren't female to
by CWuestefeld 3y ago
The politically correct language police have got us so confused about sex and gender that we don't understand our own language anymore.
Ships aren't female to English speakers. Rather, they're tagged with the feminine gender. Linguistic gender is separate from sex; it just happens that in English, although gender is almost completely dead in the language we still happen to tag females as "feminine gender" and males as "masculine gender".
The reason for the associations are more or less random. They vary from language to language, and don't seem to have much to do with whether you'd think of something as "manly" or "related to pursuits of the fairer sex".
In French and Spanish, the gender assignments of some random words:
pencil m m
truck m m
house f f
building m m
store m f
fortress f f
navy f f
military f f
castle m m
shoe f m
boot f f
hat m m
So in both French and Spanish, fortress, navy, and military are all feminine, while pencil or hat are masculine? While other words like store and shoe change their gender from language to language.
There's really just two coincidences together that cause all this confusion:
1) For what little gender English has, it happens that there are two genders. That's not true for other languages. Lots of languages have many genders.
2) Many other languages have gender but don't even concern themselves with "masculine" or "feminine". According to wikipedia, The Bantu language Ganda has "10 classes called simply Class I to Class X and containing all sorts of arbitrary groupings but often characterised as people, long objects, animals, miscellaneous objects, large objects and liquids, small objects, languages, pejoratives, infinitives, mass nouns". No confusion about females being feminine here, and so forth.
- zabzonk 3y ago> Ships aren't female to English speakers. I would say they are - they are the thing that stands between you and all sorts of very unpleasant outcomes - very like your mother.
- CWuestefeld 3y agoOh yeah, I forgot about the fact that my father never stood between me and many unpleasant outcomes. I guess the only weird thing is that I don't refer to my seatbelt and bike helmet as "she".
- zabzonk 3y agoin my somewhat later life, the person that stood between me and doom was in fact my father, so you are not wrong. earlier on though it was imprinted on me as being my mum.
- xdennis 3y agoYou cannot compare the gender of words across languages. Gender is a property of words, not the concept it refers to. For example, you say that boot is feminine in both French and Spanish, but look at how it is for various synonyms in Romanian: gheată f (from Italian) ciubotă f (from Ukrainian) bocanc m (from Hungarian) cizmă f (from Hungarian) botină f (from French) "Bocanc" is masculine because it sounds masculine to us (it doesn't end in a feminine vowel like "a"). "Botină" comes from "bottine" in French which is pronounced /bɔ.tin/. It's feminine in French but since it ends in "n" it sounds very masculine in Romanian. It would have been a masculine word if it got imported as "botin" instead of "botină". Of course it isn't always that simple and words which sound feminine might be masculine, or other combinations since we have 3 genders.