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I switched to Linux 4 years ago because of these dark patterns. No regrets.

procarch2019 3y ago
I think anyone using outlook is probably using it out of necessity for work. Not everyone can just jump to Linux when they work in a company.
- 1ain0n_dev 3y ago
  Do you not have different machines for work and personal use?
  - procarch2019 3y ago
    I don’t do more work outside of my professional work. I get away with just my phone and an iPad for everything else.
- extr0pian 3y ago
  I'm using Thunderbird on Linux with an Outlook work account. Granted, I have to pay for 'Owl for Exchange' for it work, but I absolutely hate the Outlook program, I'm willing to fork out the $10/yr of my own money just to avoid it.
  - jfhufl 3y ago
    If you still have IMAP access, thunderbird supports OAuth2 for connecting to O365 IMAP. tbsync for calendar access. Seems to work pretty well currently.
    - testrun 3y ago
      That is my setup. Works 100%.
    - procarch2019 3y ago
      No more IMAP
  - procarch2019 3y ago
    Need MS for other toolings
- Krssst 3y ago
  The web version of Outlook probably works well on other OSes.
  - savingsPossible 3y ago
    does on my linux mint, no problem (for now...)
  - procarch2019 3y ago
    As pointed out elsewhere. My comment wasn’t really on outlook itself. There are other things that bind me to MS ecosystem. I’m sure that’s true for a lot of people.
- _Algernon_ 3y ago
  Doesn't Outlook have a web version?
  - procarch2019 3y ago
    It does, but the applications and environments I need to use are Windows only anyway. IT policy also doesn’t let us have anything other than Windows. I could skirt it for the day to day stuff, but I wouldn’t want to maintain my setup in multiple places anyway
- bad_username 3y ago
  Thunderbird works pretty well with Office365 accounts.
  - procarch2019 3y ago
    I’ll have to check it out, but sometimes I think I should just lean in to all the MS integrations. I do like OneNote and use the ‘Send to OneNote’ for meeting notes all the time.
iso1631 3y ago
I switched to Linux over 20 years ago However I still have Teams. And Teams occasionally opens up a webpage for oidc authentication. Unlike Slack this isn't my default browser (firefox), it's some embedded browser in teams, which has no access to my password store. It's terrible, but it's microsoft, what do you expect?

procarch2019 3y ago

I think anyone using outlook is probably using it out of necessity for work. Not everyone can just jump to Linux when they work in a company.

1ain0n_dev 3y ago
Do you not have different machines for work and personal use?
- procarch2019 3y ago
  I don’t do more work outside of my professional work. I get away with just my phone and an iPad for everything else.
extr0pian 3y ago
I'm using Thunderbird on Linux with an Outlook work account. Granted, I have to pay for 'Owl for Exchange' for it work, but I absolutely hate the Outlook program, I'm willing to fork out the $10/yr of my own money just to avoid it.
- jfhufl 3y ago
  If you still have IMAP access, thunderbird supports OAuth2 for connecting to O365 IMAP. tbsync for calendar access. Seems to work pretty well currently.
  - testrun 3y ago
    That is my setup. Works 100%.
  - procarch2019 3y ago
    No more IMAP
- procarch2019 3y ago
  Need MS for other toolings
Krssst 3y ago
The web version of Outlook probably works well on other OSes.
- savingsPossible 3y ago
  does on my linux mint, no problem (for now...)
- procarch2019 3y ago
  As pointed out elsewhere. My comment wasn’t really on outlook itself. There are other things that bind me to MS ecosystem. I’m sure that’s true for a lot of people.
_Algernon_ 3y ago
Doesn't Outlook have a web version?
- procarch2019 3y ago
  It does, but the applications and environments I need to use are Windows only anyway. IT policy also doesn’t let us have anything other than Windows. I could skirt it for the day to day stuff, but I wouldn’t want to maintain my setup in multiple places anyway
bad_username 3y ago
Thunderbird works pretty well with Office365 accounts.
- procarch2019 3y ago
  I’ll have to check it out, but sometimes I think I should just lean in to all the MS integrations. I do like OneNote and use the ‘Send to OneNote’ for meeting notes all the time.

iso1631 3y ago

I switched to Linux over 20 years ago However I still have Teams. And Teams occasionally opens up a webpage for oidc authentication. Unlike Slack this isn't my default browser (firefox), it's some embedded browser in teams, which has no access to my password store. It's terrible, but it's microsoft, what do you expect?