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I believe the person asking wants to know how the word is seen by others, which is great in my opinion. Unlikely. Their tell is: these “woke” times

aflag 3y ago
Maybe he didn't mean that much by it. Different people, different countries, different contexts. Specially online, we definitely need to give the benefit of the doubt. A friend of mine, who doesn't speak English very well, thought the n word was a completely fine way to reference your mate. He was mortified to know what he was actually saying.
- inferiorhuman 3y ago
  Perhaps you're unfamiliar with how the term woke is currently used vis a vis American politics. It's a pejorative typically used as the foundation of a disingenuous argument about being respectful towards others or as a way of demonizing anything you disagree with. Woke was used in line with its most common meaning and scare quotes were added. It wasn't a mistake and the context was made explicit (offending people). It was used out of ignorance, sure, but not the kind of naive ignorance you're suggesting. It was used as a dog whistle. Unlike "the n word" which, in a familiar context, is used as a term of endearment in some groups, woke as an adjective has long since ceased to be used as anything other than a derogatory term used to vilify people you dislike.
  - hgsgm 3y ago
    I disagree. Stay woke.
  - aflag 3y ago
    Woke used to be an endearing term at some point. You're assuming that the quotes are there to poke fun of it, they could be there because it's a foreign or coloquial term that the author is a bit unsure about too. You have not to lose by assuming good intention until irrevocably proven wrong. The US, being influential, ends up exporting a lot of its internal politics, however other parts of the world don't necessarily interpret them in the same way. I've seen people in Brazil using the term woke in a positive way. To be honest, I only learned now that it's always pejorative.
    - DropInIn 3y ago
      The context where it was quoted makes clear they are from a culture/community where unfamiliarity is not a reason for the quotation marks. The intent and meaning is pretty damn clear imo.
    - inferiorhuman 3y ago
      I've seen people in Brazil We're talking about an American term (ABCD), not a Brazilian one.
IggleSniggle 3y ago
Perhaps unlikely, but one of the rules of this site is to assume noble intent. I try to apply this, and I think it does generate overall higher quality discussion.

aflag 3y ago

Maybe he didn't mean that much by it. Different people, different countries, different contexts. Specially online, we definitely need to give the benefit of the doubt. A friend of mine, who doesn't speak English very well, thought the n word was a completely fine way to reference your mate. He was mortified to know what he was actually saying.

inferiorhuman 3y ago
Perhaps you're unfamiliar with how the term woke is currently used vis a vis American politics. It's a pejorative typically used as the foundation of a disingenuous argument about being respectful towards others or as a way of demonizing anything you disagree with. Woke was used in line with its most common meaning and scare quotes were added. It wasn't a mistake and the context was made explicit (offending people). It was used out of ignorance, sure, but not the kind of naive ignorance you're suggesting. It was used as a dog whistle. Unlike "the n word" which, in a familiar context, is used as a term of endearment in some groups, woke as an adjective has long since ceased to be used as anything other than a derogatory term used to vilify people you dislike.
- hgsgm 3y ago
  I disagree. Stay woke.
- aflag 3y ago
  Woke used to be an endearing term at some point. You're assuming that the quotes are there to poke fun of it, they could be there because it's a foreign or coloquial term that the author is a bit unsure about too. You have not to lose by assuming good intention until irrevocably proven wrong. The US, being influential, ends up exporting a lot of its internal politics, however other parts of the world don't necessarily interpret them in the same way. I've seen people in Brazil using the term woke in a positive way. To be honest, I only learned now that it's always pejorative.
  - DropInIn 3y ago
    The context where it was quoted makes clear they are from a culture/community where unfamiliarity is not a reason for the quotation marks. The intent and meaning is pretty damn clear imo.
  - inferiorhuman 3y ago
    I've seen people in Brazil We're talking about an American term (ABCD), not a Brazilian one.

IggleSniggle 3y ago

Perhaps unlikely, but one of the rules of this site is to assume noble intent. I try to apply this, and I think it does generate overall higher quality discussion.