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by distcs 3y ago

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ramraj07 3y ago
I spent a couple years in college station. The concept of a designated driver did not exist there. I doubt it does in any campus. The main places I’ve found myself around drunk people was in academic conferences and in work outings/happy hours. Well employed, highly educated people. Not unemployed hobos. And a good fraction of them start touching inappropriately. Sure it’s still anecdotal but I didn’t claim to anything but. What non anecdotal data are you looking for? This literally commentary on a letter to an editor in the times.
- karmakurtisaani 3y ago
  What for you seems like inappropriate touching might just be bonding for them. This is what the other commenter meant by bonding better when drunk - what is inappropriate sober suddenly becomes appropriate, and that makes people feel more connected. Nothing wrong with not drinking, but alcohol has its pluses and minuses. I myself barely drink these days due to having small kids and getting the worst hangovers at this age, but I can't imagine I'd be the same person socially if I hadn't had alcohol when I was younger. I would not have had as good discussions with friends, nor met a fraction of the people I did (including of the opposite sex, including my wife). No health problems as a result, maybe I would have been slightly more focused in my studies, but it would hardly have made a difference to where I am now. The gained social skills vastly outweigh the lost study potential.
mpweiher 3y ago
> That's just anecdata Er...no. The statistics completely back this up. https://www.ncadd.us/about-addiction/addiction-update/alcohol-drugs-and-crime https://www.ncadd.us/about-addiction/addiction-update/alcoho...
- distcs 3y ago
  The link you have cited is good. Thanks! But I was responding to this comment here - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36490348 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36490348 That comment had no statistics to back it up. They only presented their own anecdotes and biases.
jimbo2000 3y ago
I thought it was pretty widely understood that alcohol results in behavioural changes that increase the risk of violence or "inappropriateness" See: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8729263 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8729263

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by distcs 3y ago

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I spent a couple years in college station. The concept of a designated driver did not exist there. I doubt it does in any campus. The main places I’ve found myself around drunk people was in academic conferences and in work outings/happy hours. Well employed, highly educated people. Not unemployed hobos. And a good fraction of them start touching inappropriately. Sure it’s still anecdotal but I didn’t claim to anything but. What non anecdotal data are you looking for? This literally commentary on a letter to an editor in the times.

karmakurtisaani 3y ago
What for you seems like inappropriate touching might just be bonding for them. This is what the other commenter meant by bonding better when drunk - what is inappropriate sober suddenly becomes appropriate, and that makes people feel more connected. Nothing wrong with not drinking, but alcohol has its pluses and minuses. I myself barely drink these days due to having small kids and getting the worst hangovers at this age, but I can't imagine I'd be the same person socially if I hadn't had alcohol when I was younger. I would not have had as good discussions with friends, nor met a fraction of the people I did (including of the opposite sex, including my wife). No health problems as a result, maybe I would have been slightly more focused in my studies, but it would hardly have made a difference to where I am now. The gained social skills vastly outweigh the lost study potential.

mpweiher 3y ago

> That's just anecdata Er...no. The statistics completely back this up. https://www.ncadd.us/about-addiction/addiction-update/alcohol-drugs-and-crime https://www.ncadd.us/about-addiction/addiction-update/alcoho...

distcs 3y ago
The link you have cited is good. Thanks! But I was responding to this comment here - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36490348 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36490348 That comment had no statistics to back it up. They only presented their own anecdotes and biases.

jimbo2000 3y ago

I thought it was pretty widely understood that alcohol results in behavioural changes that increase the risk of violence or "inappropriateness" See: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8729263 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8729263