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>We’re talking about low speed, low risk, low property damage. You realize that many of these are now being sold going 40-60mph ... that's not low speed, not l

>We’re talking about low speed, low risk, low property damage. You realize that many of these are now being sold going 40-60mph ... that's not low speed, not low risk (many of them are built with wheels and brakes that are not safe for the speeds not to mention the cheap chinese batteries that catch on fire), nor low property damage when they hit things at top speed. > exercise alone would have a positive impact in the U.S. that could very well offset the costs. What exercise? The vast majority of these being sold aren't "pedal assisted" they are full electric sudo motorcycles.

sleepybrett 3y ago
In america, at least in washington state we are limited to 750w and 25mph. You can throttle or pedal assist and then the motor cuts out and it's just you and your legs. There are some electric scooters (think vespa, not razor) and such, but those need to be licensed like motorcycles.
acover 3y ago
Aren't those already not classified as ebikes and therefore treated as motorcycles? They need insurance, registration, etc but are being driven illegally just like people drive cars illegally.
- monkeywork 3y ago
  Not where I am - if you read my original comment I made that pretty clear. The term e-bike here covers everything from motor assisted traditional bikes to what is basically an electric dirt bike with the later generally being more popular than the former
  - acover 3y ago
    You're in Toronto! It seems like it's pretty similar to BC. > a maximum assisted speed of 32 km/h https://www.ontario.ca/page/riding-e-bike#section-2 https://www.ontario.ca/page/riding-e-bike#section-2 Anything with power assist above 32kmph isn't an ebike in Ontario and would therefore need insurance, registration, license, etc. The issue is the lack of enforcement. It's crazy the number of stores and brands with illegally fast ebikes!

sleepybrett 3y ago

In america, at least in washington state we are limited to 750w and 25mph. You can throttle or pedal assist and then the motor cuts out and it's just you and your legs. There are some electric scooters (think vespa, not razor) and such, but those need to be licensed like motorcycles.

acover 3y ago

Aren't those already not classified as ebikes and therefore treated as motorcycles? They need insurance, registration, etc but are being driven illegally just like people drive cars illegally.

monkeywork 3y ago
Not where I am - if you read my original comment I made that pretty clear. The term e-bike here covers everything from motor assisted traditional bikes to what is basically an electric dirt bike with the later generally being more popular than the former
- acover 3y ago
  You're in Toronto! It seems like it's pretty similar to BC. > a maximum assisted speed of 32 km/h https://www.ontario.ca/page/riding-e-bike#section-2 https://www.ontario.ca/page/riding-e-bike#section-2 Anything with power assist above 32kmph isn't an ebike in Ontario and would therefore need insurance, registration, license, etc. The issue is the lack of enforcement. It's crazy the number of stores and brands with illegally fast ebikes!