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Pfense is practically no longer open source. OPNsense has come a long way and even has some features pfsense does not

donmcronald 3y ago
PfSense has some pretty bad problems relating to interfaces disappearing temporarily and services dying from it. I would go as far as saying 2.6.0 is unreliable. With PCEngines shutting down it’s almost impossible to find reliable, cost effective hardware. I hope pfSense gets back on track because their hardware seems ok.
- imiric 3y ago
  I recently moved my main router from a Netgate device running pfSense to a Deciso device running OPNsense, and couldn't be happier with the change. The Deciso hardware is pricey, but you get what you pay for. Very well built, silent, and very powerful hardware. No issues whatsoever.
nvy 3y ago
The pfsense people are, frankly, fucking clowns. They bought the domain opnsense.com and used it to badmouth the opnsense project[0]. Do not give pfsense time, attention, or money. [0] https://opnsense.org/opnsense-com/ https://opnsense.org/opnsense-com/
- alias_neo 3y ago
  I remember reading this nearer the time, but I never clicked through to see just what was on the site; having just looked at the cache, I'm appalled. That stuff goes beyond petty, to the point that whoever is behind that should not only NOT be doing business with the grown ups, they should be in a facility seriously re-evaluating their life choices. What a disgrace.
  - illiac786 3y ago
    >whoever s behind that Well, you don’t have to wonder, the owner of the domain was revealed by court action to be Jamie Thompson, one of the two founder of Netgate, which sells the commercial version of pfSense. Surprise…
kurito 3y ago
When trying to choose between the two, it struck me how unacceptable the behaviour of people on the pfsense project are on platforms like reddit; this was enough to tip the scales permanently. Toxicity and arrogance were prevalent, along with actively trying to squash discussions about non-Netgate hardware (the pfsense brand), while touting the project as open source.
- abwizz 3y ago
  > Toxicity and arrogance were prevalent not to dispute your points but i rekon this goes along dealing with semi-noobs and prosumers that don't necessarily bring any business but demand attention for the better part of two decades.
nprateem 3y ago
They also like to tell you why you're wrong for wanting wireguard (so it's for your own good they don't support it) instead of letting you make up your own mind. No thanks.
- illiac786 3y ago
  On that front unfortunately OPNsense is the same. But there’s a plugin at least.
  - nprateem 3y ago
    No, opnsense has guides for using wireguard in various setups. See their road warrior tutorials for example.

PfSense has some pretty bad problems relating to interfaces disappearing temporarily and services dying from it. I would go as far as saying 2.6.0 is unreliable. With PCEngines shutting down it’s almost impossible to find reliable, cost effective hardware. I hope pfSense gets back on track because their hardware seems ok.

imiric 3y ago
I recently moved my main router from a Netgate device running pfSense to a Deciso device running OPNsense, and couldn't be happier with the change. The Deciso hardware is pricey, but you get what you pay for. Very well built, silent, and very powerful hardware. No issues whatsoever.

nvy 3y ago

The pfsense people are, frankly, fucking clowns. They bought the domain opnsense.com and used it to badmouth the opnsense project[0]. Do not give pfsense time, attention, or money. [0] https://opnsense.org/opnsense-com/ https://opnsense.org/opnsense-com/

alias_neo 3y ago
I remember reading this nearer the time, but I never clicked through to see just what was on the site; having just looked at the cache, I'm appalled. That stuff goes beyond petty, to the point that whoever is behind that should not only NOT be doing business with the grown ups, they should be in a facility seriously re-evaluating their life choices. What a disgrace.
- illiac786 3y ago
  >whoever s behind that Well, you don’t have to wonder, the owner of the domain was revealed by court action to be Jamie Thompson, one of the two founder of Netgate, which sells the commercial version of pfSense. Surprise…

kurito 3y ago

When trying to choose between the two, it struck me how unacceptable the behaviour of people on the pfsense project are on platforms like reddit; this was enough to tip the scales permanently. Toxicity and arrogance were prevalent, along with actively trying to squash discussions about non-Netgate hardware (the pfsense brand), while touting the project as open source.

abwizz 3y ago
> Toxicity and arrogance were prevalent not to dispute your points but i rekon this goes along dealing with semi-noobs and prosumers that don't necessarily bring any business but demand attention for the better part of two decades.

nprateem 3y ago

They also like to tell you why you're wrong for wanting wireguard (so it's for your own good they don't support it) instead of letting you make up your own mind. No thanks.

illiac786 3y ago
On that front unfortunately OPNsense is the same. But there’s a plugin at least.
- nprateem 3y ago
  No, opnsense has guides for using wireguard in various setups. See their road warrior tutorials for example.