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I consider porn in the art category. > Do you accept there is such thing as consensual workers in porn? Yes > If so, do you think they have a right to do the

by vuln 3y ago

I consider porn in the art category. > Do you accept there is such thing as consensual workers in porn? Yes > If so, do you think they have a right to do their job? Yes Do you feel the backpage ordeal was positive or negative for the sex worker industry?

_a_a_a_ 3y ago
Okay, I appreciate this because it's constructive, upvoted. From this though, I don't understand why you would conflate consensual and nonconsensual work. It's unquestionable that trafficked women get forced into sex, but that's an issue for regulation and protection, not damning a whole industry or everything would get shut down. To answer yours then "Do you feel the backpage ordeal was positive or negative for the sex worker industry?" I have no clue what this is about. I've been through the article twice now I can't see any mention of anything, a quick search through the HN comments, ditto, so where did this come from?
- vuln 3y ago
  Apologies the Backpage this is not in the article. The wiki has a decent amount of information regarding the incident and fallout. Was just wondering your thoughts as this conversation is productive. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backpage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backpage
  - _a_a_a_ 3y ago
    The issues about Backpage are not simple and I don't have time to do more than just skim it as I have some work to do now. I can't form a solid opinion, although it does give the impression that they knew they were doing something wrong. So let's tackle right and wrong: Axiom: If it's between freely consenting adults then it's fine. If it's not between consenting adults then it's not fine and should be stopped. That is the simple basis of everything. Do you agree? I know a little bit more about Craigslist and was annoyed when they shut down their contacts section. I had a limited degree of success finding casual sex on there, and I didn't appreciate American fundamentalists screwing that up (I'm in the UK). "...This decision came after allegations by several U.S. states that the erotic services ads were being used for prostitution" – if prostitution is done between consenting adults, that cannot be wrong – see above. So why stop it? Some adults are forced into prostitution, some choose it and like it as a job (or at least make money from it and are okay with that). The former is wrong, the latter is not. I can think of 2 prostitutes I've known, male and female, both made good money and liked the job. I guess that's it in a nutshell. Where do you agree or disagree? (Like to mention that adults being forced into prostitution can happen not by force but by the need to pay bills. I remember a long while ago documentary where an American woman on the street said that she had kids to feed so "you get out there and you do what you have to do". It's possible economic circumstance is a bigger pressure to sell your body than coercion. I don't know).
  - _a_a_a_ 3y ago
    sooo.. your thoughts on my position?

by vuln 3y ago

_a_a_a_ 3y ago

Okay, I appreciate this because it's constructive, upvoted. From this though, I don't understand why you would conflate consensual and nonconsensual work. It's unquestionable that trafficked women get forced into sex, but that's an issue for regulation and protection, not damning a whole industry or everything would get shut down. To answer yours then "Do you feel the backpage ordeal was positive or negative for the sex worker industry?" I have no clue what this is about. I've been through the article twice now I can't see any mention of anything, a quick search through the HN comments, ditto, so where did this come from?

vuln 3y ago
Apologies the Backpage this is not in the article. The wiki has a decent amount of information regarding the incident and fallout. Was just wondering your thoughts as this conversation is productive. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backpage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backpage
- _a_a_a_ 3y ago
  The issues about Backpage are not simple and I don't have time to do more than just skim it as I have some work to do now. I can't form a solid opinion, although it does give the impression that they knew they were doing something wrong. So let's tackle right and wrong: Axiom: If it's between freely consenting adults then it's fine. If it's not between consenting adults then it's not fine and should be stopped. That is the simple basis of everything. Do you agree? I know a little bit more about Craigslist and was annoyed when they shut down their contacts section. I had a limited degree of success finding casual sex on there, and I didn't appreciate American fundamentalists screwing that up (I'm in the UK). "...This decision came after allegations by several U.S. states that the erotic services ads were being used for prostitution" – if prostitution is done between consenting adults, that cannot be wrong – see above. So why stop it? Some adults are forced into prostitution, some choose it and like it as a job (or at least make money from it and are okay with that). The former is wrong, the latter is not. I can think of 2 prostitutes I've known, male and female, both made good money and liked the job. I guess that's it in a nutshell. Where do you agree or disagree? (Like to mention that adults being forced into prostitution can happen not by force but by the need to pay bills. I remember a long while ago documentary where an American woman on the street said that she had kids to feed so "you get out there and you do what you have to do". It's possible economic circumstance is a bigger pressure to sell your body than coercion. I don't know).
- _a_a_a_ 3y ago
  sooo.. your thoughts on my position?