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Probably .info, it's not managed by any national government.

by ihsw 15y ago

barredo 15y ago
But is seen as a lesser domain by Google if SEO tales are true.
wmf 15y ago
Generally gTLDs are managed by private companies, not governments; the issue is that every company is under some government's jurisdiction. In this case, .info is managed by Afilias, which appears to be an Irish company and thus .info domains can probably be seized by the Irish government. http://www.iana.org/domains/root/db/info.html http://www.iana.org/domains/root/db/info.html http://www.afilias.info/about-us http://www.afilias.info/about-us
kamjam 15y ago
I missed the whole thing where .com was managed by the US, i thought that's why the .us domain was invented... i don't think anyone outside the US associates a .com meaning US based. Regardless, stupid law, Team America strikes again!
- drostie 15y ago
  The company which manages .com is headquartered in the US. This is also true for .org and .net and .us and .gov. Under US law it is now possible for the US to seize any of these domain names -- and it will continue until the international organization in charge of this system (ICANN) says "oh, that's retarded, we're changing the system so that the US doesn't host .com and .org domains." We had to fight against two acts proposed in the US which would have made it possible for the US to build a sort of DNS firewall to deny access to other domains from users working within the US -- our own rough draft of the Chinese firewall, if you like. (That was SOPA and PIPA.) But this other right was granted earlier than that, and is now being used to chilling effect.
  - kamjam 15y ago
    Wow, thanks, I didn't know that. Why this stuff isn't decentralised is crazy, but at this point I guess there is a lot of vested interest to keep it that way. EDIT: Just read about BitCoin! Sounding better and better now!
kamjam 15y ago
What about .org, piratebay uses that right?
- icebraining 15y ago
  Not anymore, they use .se now. EDIT: This is wrong, see peteri's post. .org is essentially the same as .com, owned by the US government and managed by Verisign.
  - peteri 15y ago
    .org is operated by PIR (actually afilias in dublin according to wikipedia) not sure exactly how much leverage the US has over it currently.
    - un1xl0ser 15y ago
      I imagine that corporate interests (records, movies) in the US and EU could collude to get a pirate site taken down if it had a .org, it would just be another tree to fall. So far the US has not publicly tried to drop wikileaks.org, forcing WikiLeaks migrate to a TLD that is clearly outside US reach. Maybe they wouldn't want the bad press. I'm wondering what is possible if I simply have a relationship with a reseller in the US (e.g. the one with the superbowl ads, or eNom), but my TLD registrar is outside of reach. I assume they could make the reseller drop the contract, or terminate it.
  - joejohnson 15y ago
    No, you're right. Thepiratebay.org redirects to thepiratebay.se

Probably .info, it's not managed by any national government.

by ihsw 15y ago

Probably .info, it's not managed by any national government.

barredo 15y ago

But is seen as a lesser domain by Google if SEO tales are true.

wmf 15y ago

Generally gTLDs are managed by private companies, not governments; the issue is that every company is under some government's jurisdiction. In this case, .info is managed by Afilias, which appears to be an Irish company and thus .info domains can probably be seized by the Irish government. http://www.iana.org/domains/root/db/info.html http://www.iana.org/domains/root/db/info.html http://www.afilias.info/about-us http://www.afilias.info/about-us

kamjam 15y ago

I missed the whole thing where .com was managed by the US, i thought that's why the .us domain was invented... i don't think anyone outside the US associates a .com meaning US based. Regardless, stupid law, Team America strikes again!

drostie 15y ago
The company which manages .com is headquartered in the US. This is also true for .org and .net and .us and .gov. Under US law it is now possible for the US to seize any of these domain names -- and it will continue until the international organization in charge of this system (ICANN) says "oh, that's retarded, we're changing the system so that the US doesn't host .com and .org domains." We had to fight against two acts proposed in the US which would have made it possible for the US to build a sort of DNS firewall to deny access to other domains from users working within the US -- our own rough draft of the Chinese firewall, if you like. (That was SOPA and PIPA.) But this other right was granted earlier than that, and is now being used to chilling effect.
- kamjam 15y ago
  Wow, thanks, I didn't know that. Why this stuff isn't decentralised is crazy, but at this point I guess there is a lot of vested interest to keep it that way. EDIT: Just read about BitCoin! Sounding better and better now!

kamjam 15y ago

What about .org, piratebay uses that right?

icebraining 15y ago
Not anymore, they use .se now. EDIT: This is wrong, see peteri's post. .org is essentially the same as .com, owned by the US government and managed by Verisign.
- peteri 15y ago
  .org is operated by PIR (actually afilias in dublin according to wikipedia) not sure exactly how much leverage the US has over it currently.
  - un1xl0ser 15y ago
    I imagine that corporate interests (records, movies) in the US and EU could collude to get a pirate site taken down if it had a .org, it would just be another tree to fall. So far the US has not publicly tried to drop wikileaks.org, forcing WikiLeaks migrate to a TLD that is clearly outside US reach. Maybe they wouldn't want the bad press. I'm wondering what is possible if I simply have a relationship with a reseller in the US (e.g. the one with the superbowl ads, or eNom), but my TLD registrar is outside of reach. I assume they could make the reseller drop the contract, or terminate it.
- joejohnson 15y ago
  No, you're right. Thepiratebay.org redirects to thepiratebay.se