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> I feel that much of the anger from our recent decision around the downstream sources comes from either those who do not want to pay for the time, effort and r
by pierat 3y ago
> I feel that much of the anger from our recent decision around the downstream sources comes from either those who do not want to pay for the time, effort and resources going into RHEL or those who want to repackage it for their own profit. This demand for RHEL code is disingenuous.
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> There was a time, not too long ago, that Red Hat found value in the work done by rebuilders like CentOS. We pushed our SRPMs out to git.centos.org in a neat package that made them easy to rebuild; we even de-branded it for them. More recently, we have determined that there isn’t value in having a downstream rebuilder.
All in all, this line of commentary really shows to me that FLOSS software and community is at diametric odds with commercialism and capitalism.
One side (FLOSS) is about building and working together, even if there's bumps and bruises. In the end, everyone benefits because everyone is helping each other. FLOSS is obvious area, but so is the fediverse like Mastodon, Matrix, Lemmy, and others.
The commercial/capitalist way is to erect walls and gates, initially set them low/no barriers, and then over time extract money for access to the arbitrarily gated areas. We see this in reddit, discord, github, gitlab, redhat, etc. And then those companies will start out open, and slowly close each avenue until people are either forced to pay up, or leave. Cory Doctorow talks about this with "enshittification". "Internet of Shit", for IoT goods, is a similar anti-feature-fest where you pay more and get less over time.
- meltedcapacitor 3y agothe argument seems to be that redhat is/was playing fairly and then Oracle/AWS/Google/etc (which for legal reasons obviously cannot be named explicitly) came and started freeloading on redhat's work instead of "working together". bit of a tragedy of the commons/adverse selection issue within "capitalism" than a "capitalism vs community" thing. maybe they should just grandfather RHEL (only support current releases for the 10 year period, no new LTS) and if clients want a security patched newer version of Linux, offer consultancy to help them switch to Oracle Linux. and then Larry will have to actually do the work lol. maybe at a later point they can offer support for a bug-for-bug compatible rebuild of Oracle Linux :-)