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The ZuneHD released September 2009, pronounced dead October 2011. Then there is the aforementioned Kin. WP7 devices will be shortly. No WP7 device is capable

The ZuneHD released September 2009, pronounced dead October 2011. Then there is the aforementioned Kin. WP7 devices will be shortly. No WP7 device is capable of running WP8(or at least that is the rumor.)

untog 15y ago
The ZuneHD released September 2009, pronounced dead October 2011. I don't know what you mean by that exactly- have all the ZuneHD devices out there stopped working? No. Is the Zune desktop software still being updated? Yes. And 'Zune' wasn't killed, it was integrated into Windows Phone. MS are just responding to the market in that regard- no-one wants to carry around a dedicated media player any more- they use their smartphone. Kin was a giant mess, yes. But MS practically killed it before launch, and it has next to no advertising- I very much doubt it affected the average consumer's perception of Microsoft, because they probably never heard about it.
- stonemetal 15y ago
  Is the Zune desktop software still being updated? Yes. That is rather like saying the iPod mini wasn't killed off because iTunes is still updated. You are unable to build software with the current sdk that will run on a Zune. Zune device software hasn't been updated since before it was discontinued. So no Zune devices were not integrated into windows phone, they were dropped in the dust bin.
  - freehunter 15y ago
    Considering the Zune never had an app store or any official way to distribute Zune apps, I don't see it as a net loss. Microsoft even said that the only officially distributed Zune apps would be from Microsoft themselves. You're talking about the Zune as though it were a single product, like the iPod Mini. It's not. Zune is a product line. Windows Phone is a continuation of the Zune product line. By your reasoning, Apple must have killed the iPod line because the older iPods are not being made. You ignore that they're making new iPod (Zune) hardware. The only thing that has changed is Microsoft is not making Zune-branded hardware anymore, rather hardware that runs the Zune software.
    - stonemetal 15y ago
      Only if you miss characterize what I said. I was specifically talking about the ZuneHD. Much like if I had an iPod classic focus on new hardware (wp7 or iPod touch) does me no good I am not invited to play in those reindeer games.
- megablast 15y ago
  I guess Next is still going for the same reason. And I guess standard oil is still pumping away.
freehunter 15y ago
>The ZuneHD released September 2009, pronounced dead October 2011. So they had a product that was made and sold for two years. At the end of its life they stopped making them and started making the replacement. How long did the iPod Mini last? (hint: less than two years) >or at least that is the rumor. Let's save that discussion for when it becomes fact. Even if it's true, Windows Phone 7 has had many significant updates. Every mobile device has its support dropped within years of its release. If anything, Microsoft has a history of holding on to old things for far too long. The rest of the industry changes far more rapidly and far more drastically.
recoiledsnake 15y ago
> No WP7 device is capable of running WP8(or at least that is the rumor.) I thought the rumor was the opposite? http://www.windowsphonedaily.com/2012/02/rumor-apollo-will-support-all-windows.html http://www.windowsphonedaily.com/2012/02/rumor-apollo-will-s...
- freehunter 15y ago
  By "rumor" he meant "I'm starting this rumor".
  - stonemetal 15y ago
    http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Windows-Phone-7.x-Windows-Phone-8-Upgrade-Windows-8-apollo,news-14348.html http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Windows-Phone-7.x-Windows-Phone-... Additional sources claim that Apollo won't be pushed to existing Windows Phone users. Rather sounds like no upgrades to me.

untog 15y ago

The ZuneHD released September 2009, pronounced dead October 2011. I don't know what you mean by that exactly- have all the ZuneHD devices out there stopped working? No. Is the Zune desktop software still being updated? Yes. And 'Zune' wasn't killed, it was integrated into Windows Phone. MS are just responding to the market in that regard- no-one wants to carry around a dedicated media player any more- they use their smartphone. Kin was a giant mess, yes. But MS practically killed it before launch, and it has next to no advertising- I very much doubt it affected the average consumer's perception of Microsoft, because they probably never heard about it.

stonemetal 15y ago
Is the Zune desktop software still being updated? Yes. That is rather like saying the iPod mini wasn't killed off because iTunes is still updated. You are unable to build software with the current sdk that will run on a Zune. Zune device software hasn't been updated since before it was discontinued. So no Zune devices were not integrated into windows phone, they were dropped in the dust bin.
- freehunter 15y ago
  Considering the Zune never had an app store or any official way to distribute Zune apps, I don't see it as a net loss. Microsoft even said that the only officially distributed Zune apps would be from Microsoft themselves. You're talking about the Zune as though it were a single product, like the iPod Mini. It's not. Zune is a product line. Windows Phone is a continuation of the Zune product line. By your reasoning, Apple must have killed the iPod line because the older iPods are not being made. You ignore that they're making new iPod (Zune) hardware. The only thing that has changed is Microsoft is not making Zune-branded hardware anymore, rather hardware that runs the Zune software.
  - stonemetal 15y ago
    Only if you miss characterize what I said. I was specifically talking about the ZuneHD. Much like if I had an iPod classic focus on new hardware (wp7 or iPod touch) does me no good I am not invited to play in those reindeer games.
megablast 15y ago
I guess Next is still going for the same reason. And I guess standard oil is still pumping away.

freehunter 15y ago

>The ZuneHD released September 2009, pronounced dead October 2011. So they had a product that was made and sold for two years. At the end of its life they stopped making them and started making the replacement. How long did the iPod Mini last? (hint: less than two years) >or at least that is the rumor. Let's save that discussion for when it becomes fact. Even if it's true, Windows Phone 7 has had many significant updates. Every mobile device has its support dropped within years of its release. If anything, Microsoft has a history of holding on to old things for far too long. The rest of the industry changes far more rapidly and far more drastically.

recoiledsnake 15y ago

> No WP7 device is capable of running WP8(or at least that is the rumor.) I thought the rumor was the opposite? http://www.windowsphonedaily.com/2012/02/rumor-apollo-will-support-all-windows.html http://www.windowsphonedaily.com/2012/02/rumor-apollo-will-s...

freehunter 15y ago
By "rumor" he meant "I'm starting this rumor".
- stonemetal 15y ago
  http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Windows-Phone-7.x-Windows-Phone-8-Upgrade-Windows-8-apollo,news-14348.html http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Windows-Phone-7.x-Windows-Phone-... Additional sources claim that Apollo won't be pushed to existing Windows Phone users. Rather sounds like no upgrades to me.