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> seeing any particular ad is the least of your problems I run a blocker. But for a general user not hitting shadier corners of the web and careful what they

by w0m 3y ago

> seeing any particular ad is the least of your problems I run a blocker. But for a general user not hitting shadier corners of the web and careful what they click on - What are the larger problems people discuss, and how are they relevant in the day-to-day?

garciasn 3y ago
If you're located in a non-GDPR (or in a lesser sense CCPA) legislation area, YOU are being tracked cross-site and profiles are being built on your data to better target and sell your behavior for the pleasure of using the Interwebs. Do EVERYTHING in your power to avoid that.
- HeyLaughingBoy 3y ago
  Yeah, I know. I just don't care. Seriously, I remember this being pointed out literally 20+ years ago. It's gotten far worse since then. Horses are out, no point worrying about the barn door now.
- w0m 3y ago
  > Do EVERYTHING in your power to avoid that. The question was, "Why should I care?" A nebulous 'They' have had profiles on all of us since at least the 50s regardless; what's the difference and harm?
  - t0bia_s 3y ago
    You know that your data are valuable and make profit for others. You know that those data can be used to manipulate your decisions, to shape your thoughts, your wallet, your voting... Yet, you dont care?
    - w0m 3y ago
      Hasn't that been society since the advent of advertising, and 'targeted' since at least the 1950s? Everything (and everyone) around you is shaping who you are; I've always attested that the key was to try and be as self aware as possible.
      - t0bia_s 3y ago
        I do recommend documentary Ceuntury of Self (2001) about this topic. Apparently more consumer citizens are less confrontational. Idea comes from S. Freud and was implemented by propaganda, later renamed to public relations, of individualism by Edward Bernays in US in 30's. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Century_of_the_Self https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Century_of_the_Self
carlosjobim 3y ago
If you disable your ad-blocker, you'll notice that scam and malware/virus ads are everywhere, they're not relegated to the shady corners. Instagram, Facebook and newspapers are for example absolutely infested with pure scam advertising.
gnz11 3y ago
I would say Facebook receiving private health data presents a large problem. https://themarkup.org/pixel-hunt/2022/06/16/facebook-is-receiving-sensitive-medical-information-from-hospital-websites https://themarkup.org/pixel-hunt/2022/06/16/facebook-is-rece...

by w0m 3y ago

garciasn 3y ago

If you're located in a non-GDPR (or in a lesser sense CCPA) legislation area, YOU are being tracked cross-site and profiles are being built on your data to better target and sell your behavior for the pleasure of using the Interwebs. Do EVERYTHING in your power to avoid that.

HeyLaughingBoy 3y ago
Yeah, I know. I just don't care. Seriously, I remember this being pointed out literally 20+ years ago. It's gotten far worse since then. Horses are out, no point worrying about the barn door now.
w0m 3y ago
> Do EVERYTHING in your power to avoid that. The question was, "Why should I care?" A nebulous 'They' have had profiles on all of us since at least the 50s regardless; what's the difference and harm?
- t0bia_s 3y ago
  You know that your data are valuable and make profit for others. You know that those data can be used to manipulate your decisions, to shape your thoughts, your wallet, your voting... Yet, you dont care?
  - w0m 3y ago
    Hasn't that been society since the advent of advertising, and 'targeted' since at least the 1950s? Everything (and everyone) around you is shaping who you are; I've always attested that the key was to try and be as self aware as possible.
    - t0bia_s 3y ago
      I do recommend documentary Ceuntury of Self (2001) about this topic. Apparently more consumer citizens are less confrontational. Idea comes from S. Freud and was implemented by propaganda, later renamed to public relations, of individualism by Edward Bernays in US in 30's. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Century_of_the_Self https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Century_of_the_Self

carlosjobim 3y ago

If you disable your ad-blocker, you'll notice that scam and malware/virus ads are everywhere, they're not relegated to the shady corners. Instagram, Facebook and newspapers are for example absolutely infested with pure scam advertising.

gnz11 3y ago

I would say Facebook receiving private health data presents a large problem. https://themarkup.org/pixel-hunt/2022/06/16/facebook-is-receiving-sensitive-medical-information-from-hospital-websites https://themarkup.org/pixel-hunt/2022/06/16/facebook-is-rece...