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https://archive.is/HCNIS https://archive.is/HCNIS TLDR: breathlessly portraying Putin as losing his grasp on power without new information. PS: it was 8,000 tr

https://archive.is/HCNIS https://archive.is/HCNIS TLDR: breathlessly portraying Putin as losing his grasp on power without new information. PS: it was 8,000 troops behind Prigozhin not 25,000 as misreported earlier. Prigozhin is exiled to Belarius, but Belarius is a satellite of Russian power. Putin is likely going to clean house (assuming events are what they seem), but it's far from clear what actually happened inside of Russia at this point, and what we've been told has already been shown to be false information. The chances of getting objective data from Western media sources in situations like this is effectively zero - it's a combination of clickbait to sell ads and disinformation. I'm going to wait and see with an open mind.

VK538FY 3y ago
Good comment. Another weakness of Western commentary: people write novels about what they'd _like_ to see happen in Russia, then submit them as the new baseline. (So much effort really, for nothing.) And if we've learnt anything, things in Russia never seem to turn out as one might _like_ them to.
tomatotomato37 3y ago
Russia internal politics makes Game of Thrones look like a playground spat; I've heard it's nearly impossible for intelligence agencies to know exactly what's going on among all the power plays and backstabbery, let alone any sort of media agency
r721 3y ago
>and what we've been told has already been shown to be false information What do you mean exactly?
- willmadden 3y ago
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r721 3y ago
>It’s in my post. So apart from opinions about what might happen in the future (that can't really be called "false information"), just "8,000 vs 25,000" discrepancy? But that also can't be called "false information" as "25,000" is what Prigozhin publicly said he has, and that was correctly reported as such, and "8,000" is an estimation from "UK security sources" as I understand.

VK538FY 3y ago

Good comment. Another weakness of Western commentary: people write novels about what they'd _like_ to see happen in Russia, then submit them as the new baseline. (So much effort really, for nothing.) And if we've learnt anything, things in Russia never seem to turn out as one might _like_ them to.

tomatotomato37 3y ago

Russia internal politics makes Game of Thrones look like a playground spat; I've heard it's nearly impossible for intelligence agencies to know exactly what's going on among all the power plays and backstabbery, let alone any sort of media agency

r721 3y ago

>and what we've been told has already been shown to be false information What do you mean exactly?

willmadden 3y ago
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r721 3y ago

>It’s in my post. So apart from opinions about what might happen in the future (that can't really be called "false information"), just "8,000 vs 25,000" discrepancy? But that also can't be called "false information" as "25,000" is what Prigozhin publicly said he has, and that was correctly reported as such, and "8,000" is an estimation from "UK security sources" as I understand.