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The interesting bit is yet to come. Show me the YouTube compilation of Oregon drivers using a fuel pump for the very first time. I bet you 90% will be issues wi

by 1970-01-01 3y ago

The interesting bit is yet to come. Show me the YouTube compilation of Oregon drivers using a fuel pump for the very first time. I bet you 90% will be issues with payment and not the physical act of refueling the tank.

jjice 3y ago
Yeah this is definitely an interesting situation. I remember another state started allowing it a few years ago and there were quite a few issues. I can't blame them though, imagine having never done something before and now you have to start. Probably tricky the first time. Growing up pumping your own gas for you parents while they run into the gas station store or something makes you forget that not everyone knows it.
- rootusrootus 3y ago
  > imagine having never done something before Oh jeez. Most people in Oregon live in Portland, across the river from Washington, and have pumped their own gas many times. I'm sure the media will find some confused elderly people to put on the evening news, though.
  - tzs 3y ago
    > Oh jeez. Most people in Oregon live in Portland, across the river from Washington, and have pumped their own gas many times. I've never compared gas prices in Portland and Washington, but I'd expect them to be higher in Washington. 1. Washington has sales tax. Oregon does not. Washington will return that tax if the Oregonian keeps their receipt and files for a refund with the Washington Department of Revenue (it used to be that they could show Oregon ID at the time of purchase and the retailer would not collect the tax, but that changed in 2020. 2. Washington gas taxes are $0.11/gallon higher than Oregon gas taxes. I'd thus expect Oregonians to try to avoid gassing up in Washington, and generally only do so when they are going to be going somewhere in Washington far enough from Oregon that they have to gas up there.
    - lotsofpulp 3y ago
      Use the Costco app to compare real time gas prices all over the country. Tue are Costco’s on both sides of the Columbia River. Note that WA started a carbon tax on oil producers or sellers Jan 1 however that should have increased gas prices. > 1. Washington has sales tax. Oregon does not. Washington will return that tax if the Oregonian keeps their receipt and files for a refund with the Washington Department of Revenue How does this work in the case of gas, because one of the stipulations is: > Purchases are for eligible items that will only be used outside of Washington state. >Purchases are for tangible property/goods, digital products, or digital codes. Common examples include home appliances and electronics, household goods, and clothes. https://dor.wa.gov/file-pay-taxes/apply-tax-refund/state-sales-tax-refund-qualified-nonresidents https://dor.wa.gov/file-pay-taxes/apply-tax-refund/state-sal... Seems like it would hard to show that you used a certain amount of gas outside of WA.
  - ksenzee 3y ago
    I live in Washington, well north of the Oregon state line, and I've helped sheepish Oregonians pump their gas once or twice. I doubt it'll be hard to find confused people of all ages.
- lesuorac 3y ago
  > Growing up pumping your own gas for you parents while they run into the gas station store or something makes you forget that not everyone knows it. How will those rental car drivers from NYC ever manage! But honestly, in states where you can pump your gas just drive around for an 1 hour with your eyes open. You'll pass by several other cars whose gas lids aren't actually closed ...
rootusrootus 3y ago
The vast majority of Oregon drivers have pumped their own gas before in other states. I doubt there will be many issues.
- jedberg 3y ago
  I asked my brother and SIL how they feel about this. Both of them immediately said it will be a shitshow because no one knows how to pump their own gas. My brother lives in one of the rural areas where self-serve has been legal since 2017. He says he helps someone pump for the first time at least once a week. Last week he tried to help an older man who just gave up and left. I think you overestimate how many people have ever pumped for themselves or are willing to learn.
  - hellojesus 3y ago
    We've had several periods over the past few years where gas stations were outright refusing to pump, and customers had to self service. Mostly covid and heat driven, but I'd venture to say that most Oregonians have pumped their own gas a nonzero number of times. Now the logistics at the pump may be another beast entirely...
irrational 3y ago
I doubt this will happen. How many drivers have stayed in one state their entire lives? Especially when the vast majority of Oregonians live a few miles from the Washington border?
- bbor 3y ago
  I have personally seen this happen, albeit to a young person from Oregon. Still, I suspect there are far more people that do little traveling in Oregon than y’all expect
- green-salt 3y ago
  I know of people who spend their whole lives in a single town.
  - irrational 3y ago
    Those kinds of people are going to be at a disadvantage no matter what the situation.
- yalestar 3y ago
  True, there aren't very many. But I was shocked to learn that the wife of a friend of mine had grown up in Oregon City (15 miles south of Portland) and she had only ever traveled to Washington state and had never pumped her own gas.
ewoodrich 3y ago
Not likely to be a big problem for the Portland metro due to Vancouver, WA being right across the river and more or less part of the greater metro area.

jjice 3y ago

Yeah this is definitely an interesting situation. I remember another state started allowing it a few years ago and there were quite a few issues. I can't blame them though, imagine having never done something before and now you have to start. Probably tricky the first time. Growing up pumping your own gas for you parents while they run into the gas station store or something makes you forget that not everyone knows it.

rootusrootus 3y ago
> imagine having never done something before Oh jeez. Most people in Oregon live in Portland, across the river from Washington, and have pumped their own gas many times. I'm sure the media will find some confused elderly people to put on the evening news, though.
- tzs 3y ago
  > Oh jeez. Most people in Oregon live in Portland, across the river from Washington, and have pumped their own gas many times. I've never compared gas prices in Portland and Washington, but I'd expect them to be higher in Washington. 1. Washington has sales tax. Oregon does not. Washington will return that tax if the Oregonian keeps their receipt and files for a refund with the Washington Department of Revenue (it used to be that they could show Oregon ID at the time of purchase and the retailer would not collect the tax, but that changed in 2020. 2. Washington gas taxes are $0.11/gallon higher than Oregon gas taxes. I'd thus expect Oregonians to try to avoid gassing up in Washington, and generally only do so when they are going to be going somewhere in Washington far enough from Oregon that they have to gas up there.
  - lotsofpulp 3y ago
    Use the Costco app to compare real time gas prices all over the country. Tue are Costco’s on both sides of the Columbia River. Note that WA started a carbon tax on oil producers or sellers Jan 1 however that should have increased gas prices. > 1. Washington has sales tax. Oregon does not. Washington will return that tax if the Oregonian keeps their receipt and files for a refund with the Washington Department of Revenue How does this work in the case of gas, because one of the stipulations is: > Purchases are for eligible items that will only be used outside of Washington state. >Purchases are for tangible property/goods, digital products, or digital codes. Common examples include home appliances and electronics, household goods, and clothes. https://dor.wa.gov/file-pay-taxes/apply-tax-refund/state-sales-tax-refund-qualified-nonresidents https://dor.wa.gov/file-pay-taxes/apply-tax-refund/state-sal... Seems like it would hard to show that you used a certain amount of gas outside of WA.
- ksenzee 3y ago
  I live in Washington, well north of the Oregon state line, and I've helped sheepish Oregonians pump their gas once or twice. I doubt it'll be hard to find confused people of all ages.
lesuorac 3y ago
> Growing up pumping your own gas for you parents while they run into the gas station store or something makes you forget that not everyone knows it. How will those rental car drivers from NYC ever manage! But honestly, in states where you can pump your gas just drive around for an 1 hour with your eyes open. You'll pass by several other cars whose gas lids aren't actually closed ...

rootusrootus 3y ago

The vast majority of Oregon drivers have pumped their own gas before in other states. I doubt there will be many issues.

jedberg 3y ago
I asked my brother and SIL how they feel about this. Both of them immediately said it will be a shitshow because no one knows how to pump their own gas. My brother lives in one of the rural areas where self-serve has been legal since 2017. He says he helps someone pump for the first time at least once a week. Last week he tried to help an older man who just gave up and left. I think you overestimate how many people have ever pumped for themselves or are willing to learn.
- hellojesus 3y ago
  We've had several periods over the past few years where gas stations were outright refusing to pump, and customers had to self service. Mostly covid and heat driven, but I'd venture to say that most Oregonians have pumped their own gas a nonzero number of times. Now the logistics at the pump may be another beast entirely...

irrational 3y ago

I doubt this will happen. How many drivers have stayed in one state their entire lives? Especially when the vast majority of Oregonians live a few miles from the Washington border?

bbor 3y ago
I have personally seen this happen, albeit to a young person from Oregon. Still, I suspect there are far more people that do little traveling in Oregon than y’all expect
green-salt 3y ago
I know of people who spend their whole lives in a single town.
- irrational 3y ago
  Those kinds of people are going to be at a disadvantage no matter what the situation.
yalestar 3y ago
True, there aren't very many. But I was shocked to learn that the wife of a friend of mine had grown up in Oregon City (15 miles south of Portland) and she had only ever traveled to Washington state and had never pumped her own gas.

ewoodrich 3y ago

Not likely to be a big problem for the Portland metro due to Vancouver, WA being right across the river and more or less part of the greater metro area.