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> Surely, these questions of violence and sexuality are an arena where we need strong measures to make clear our intolerance for date and acquaintance rape, law
by jadamson 3y ago
> Surely, these questions of violence and sexuality are an arena where we need strong measures to make clear our intolerance for date and acquaintance rape, laws that protect women, social attitudes that believe women who do come forward.
I believe he's saying exactly what he wrote - that we should believe women who come forward. Note that he specifically mentions "social attitudes" separately from law/process.
- mpweiher 3y agoAnd the women were believed. Their accusation was not dismissed, but taken seriously, an investigation started etc. However, that is not the same thing as "accusation = guilt". We live in the former world, not in the latter. Fortunately. And I am pretty sure he was describing the former, not the latter. And if he was describing the former, then he was simply wrong.
- jadamson 3y agoYou seem to be using a different definition of "believe" to the rest of the English-speaking world [1]. Belief usually comes after investigation, it's certainly not a prerequisite. If he meant that accusations should be taken seriously and investigated, those words were available to him. He chose "believe", and now I choose to believe his accusers. As for the world we live in, you're thankfully correct (for the most part). Kimmel was an activist who wanted to change the world, and they do occasionally make progress in that direction [2][3]. [1] https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/believe https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/believe [2] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-65531380 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-65531380 [3] https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/25/us/college-sex-assault-rules.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/25/us/college-sex-assault-ru...