I think your comment would've been better received if you maybe phrased it as a question that encouraged some discourse. "Do people really feel like languages

I think your comment would've been better received if you maybe phrased it as a question that encouraged some discourse. "Do people really feel like languages and systems that enforce immutability help them? I'd be interested in any arguments for handling immutability with language restrictions over code guidelines, because I'm not seeing how we need these restrictions on a language level to get the benefits we want." The above has a clear stance and still encourages conversation, I think. For what it's worth, I mostly agree with you that in the end, I don't really give a shit if we can mutate things. In fact, I think the places where our software falls apart the most (performance on different axes) would benefit from being able to mutate things for sure.