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> Appeal committees must be bought. Britain is the most corrupt country not in Europe.. Local authorities refusing planning isn't corruption. And if you think

> Appeal committees must be bought. Britain is the most corrupt country not in Europe.. Local authorities refusing planning isn't corruption. And if you think Britain is corrupt I assume you have no familiarity with other countries.

blitzar 3y ago
Local authorities refusing planning, then granting it when you write a cheque for 10k for the planning officer is corruption. It wasnt a cheque, but a pair of first class tickets to the bahamas for the planning officer and their wife, totally worth it thought. Its not even an open secret, its a known fact. https://www.theplanner.co.uk/2020/08/03/local-authorities-are-unable-prevent-corruption-planning-says-report https://www.theplanner.co.uk/2020/08/03/local-authorities-ar...
- denton-scratch 3y ago
  > councils should ensure all meetings between councillors, developers and their agents in major planning decisions are attended by at least one council official Unfortunately many councils (including my own) are now run by an executive consisting of officials. People have known for decades that the planning committee is crooked; but I guess that's what you get in a university town where the uni owns most of the best land in the town, is the largest employer, and even used to have it's own parliamentary seat.
  - blitzar 3y ago
    > councils should ensure all meetings between councillors, developers and their agents in major planning decisions are attended by at least one council official Of course council officials want to be in the room ... They want a piece of the action. The planning officers were kicking back only a small portion of the bribes to the councilors and pocketing the bulk for themselves.
- thesaintlives 3y ago
  It is even worse than that. You just pay the correct people cash.
zimpenfish 3y ago
> And if you think Britain is corrupt I assume you have no familiarity with other countries. Why would what happens in any other country change whether Britain is (and it demonstrably is) corrupt?
thesaintlives 3y ago
Indeed. It works like this: Planning is submitted and refused. Planning then goes to appeal. The appeal happens in another city with another committee. Members on that committee are paid to make the 'correct' decision and planning is granted. That is how city councils work. Nothing happens without someone being paid. From top to bottom. If you have the right connections and are happy to pay the job gets done. I am very familiar with other countries. Britain is up there with the worst. Why do you think nothing works? By chance? Incompetence?

blitzar 3y ago

Local authorities refusing planning, then granting it when you write a cheque for 10k for the planning officer is corruption. It wasnt a cheque, but a pair of first class tickets to the bahamas for the planning officer and their wife, totally worth it thought. Its not even an open secret, its a known fact. https://www.theplanner.co.uk/2020/08/03/local-authorities-are-unable-prevent-corruption-planning-says-report https://www.theplanner.co.uk/2020/08/03/local-authorities-ar...

denton-scratch 3y ago
> councils should ensure all meetings between councillors, developers and their agents in major planning decisions are attended by at least one council official Unfortunately many councils (including my own) are now run by an executive consisting of officials. People have known for decades that the planning committee is crooked; but I guess that's what you get in a university town where the uni owns most of the best land in the town, is the largest employer, and even used to have it's own parliamentary seat.
- blitzar 3y ago
  > councils should ensure all meetings between councillors, developers and their agents in major planning decisions are attended by at least one council official Of course council officials want to be in the room ... They want a piece of the action. The planning officers were kicking back only a small portion of the bribes to the councilors and pocketing the bulk for themselves.
thesaintlives 3y ago
It is even worse than that. You just pay the correct people cash.

zimpenfish 3y ago

> And if you think Britain is corrupt I assume you have no familiarity with other countries. Why would what happens in any other country change whether Britain is (and it demonstrably is) corrupt?

thesaintlives 3y ago

Indeed. It works like this: Planning is submitted and refused. Planning then goes to appeal. The appeal happens in another city with another committee. Members on that committee are paid to make the 'correct' decision and planning is granted. That is how city councils work. Nothing happens without someone being paid. From top to bottom. If you have the right connections and are happy to pay the job gets done. I am very familiar with other countries. Britain is up there with the worst. Why do you think nothing works? By chance? Incompetence?