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Teachers, mentors and friends are of course very important, but I would believe this not to be the case. There is no society or commune to take care of the imm

Teachers, mentors and friends are of course very important, but I would believe this not to be the case. There is no society or commune to take care of the immediate needs. There can be large families that offer a very good and secure support network and there are families that form clans. In that it seems to be a very neutral influence. > I admit that there's likely some who won't like hearing this You have to advertise this larger community unit a bit because I don't really see it aside from the latter example. The time of the utopia commune parenting with the weird third party uncle was never very popular and most importantly, not very successful. Father that take pride in parenting will get much better results and to say that is egotism seems like a very sad and reduced perspective.

phil21 3y ago
> Father that take pride in parenting will get much better results You need both. Fathers that take pride in parenting their own kids, and the random neighbor kids, and their sister's kids, and their friend's kids when they happen to be around. And other parents that support said fathering. A totally disinterested father cannot be replaced by a broad functional community. A functional community cannot be replaced by a highly invested father. They simply fulfil similar but differing needs. You could say the village is made up of fathers (and mothers, etc.) who take pride in parenting.
- raxxorraxor 3y ago
  I don't expect something like that to form anywhere aside from very remote villages where people tend to stay for most of their lives. In a modern city interactions are probably too fleeting, people change location too often. Strong relationships need time to form. So people leave and only the closest family members and friends remain in contact. Even with Facebook. I believe this is a main driver for why you generally don't see large families in the western sphere anymore.

phil21 3y ago

> Father that take pride in parenting will get much better results You need both. Fathers that take pride in parenting their own kids, and the random neighbor kids, and their sister's kids, and their friend's kids when they happen to be around. And other parents that support said fathering. A totally disinterested father cannot be replaced by a broad functional community. A functional community cannot be replaced by a highly invested father. They simply fulfil similar but differing needs. You could say the village is made up of fathers (and mothers, etc.) who take pride in parenting.

raxxorraxor 3y ago
I don't expect something like that to form anywhere aside from very remote villages where people tend to stay for most of their lives. In a modern city interactions are probably too fleeting, people change location too often. Strong relationships need time to form. So people leave and only the closest family members and friends remain in contact. Even with Facebook. I believe this is a main driver for why you generally don't see large families in the western sphere anymore.