I think it's real slow progress, and sometimes even, quite fast. It's the same ideas, but I will assure you that most of the large things that people get crotc

I think it's real slow progress, and sometimes even, quite fast. It's the same ideas, but I will assure you that most of the large things that people get crotchety about are legitimate moves forward. People were complaining about "docker" (i.e. cgroups + namespaces + some CLI UX) not too long ago and now you'd be dumb to try and deploy most applications without at least having that there. How many people are wrangling their own cgroups and namespaces (not counting systemd, which is another thing people fought, tooth and nail)? Should we all be doing 1 user per workload like the good 'ol days? Or maybe 1 machine/VM per workload like the 'ol 'ol days?