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While I agree with your take about society, I disagree that boys have less space to be boys. Boys will be boys, no matter what the world does. There will never

While I agree with your take about society, I disagree that boys have less space to be boys. Boys will be boys, no matter what the world does. There will never be a shortage of boys who want to throw rocks and jump in mud until their feet get stuck.

nightowl_games 3y ago
> Boys will be boys, no matter what the world does. This seems wildly overstated and naive. Things are rapidly changing. Forget the world, a mother alone has a massive influence on whether a child will engage in the behaviour you are describing. Yes, some children will shine through all odds stacked against them, but to put all your chips into nature over nurture isnt even close to reasonable.
- dumpsterdiver 3y ago
  > to put all your chips into nature over nurture isnt even close to reasonable It sounds like you're saying that "what we are" is less instrumental than "what we are told to be". We can agree to disagree.
throwaway_45321 3y ago
> Boys will be boys, no matter what the world does. You are saying this based based off of.. what exactly? I disagree with this entirely. The world has a huge effect on what boys do. In a social media world driven by likes, clicks and endless consumption, you have to be very careful about what is said or done as it is easy for something to be take out of context, and magnified for the whole world to see.
- dumpsterdiver 3y ago
  > You are saying this based based off of.. what exactly? Based on the fact that boys are indeed boys, and hence, they will be boys.
Doxin 3y ago
> Boys will be boys, no matter what the world does. I dunno man. In school it seems that gossiping is more or less accepted where roughhousing is clearly banned. That sure seems to me like the world is trying to repress at least part of "boys will be boys".
- qball 3y ago
  >In school it seems that gossiping is more or less accepted where roughhousing is clearly banned. In its majestic equality, the law prohibits boy and girl alike from engaging in socialization activities overwhelmingly favored by boys.
  - dumpsterdiver 3y ago
    Well... the school prohibits it. The law actually allows for two combatants to engage in mutually agreed combat as long as they don't kill each other. That's completely legal.
    - Doxin 3y ago
      I feel like sticking roughousing under "combat" is part of the problem
      - dumpsterdiver 3y ago
        Maybe I'm an outlier, but I don't think so... during my teenage years my friends and I were pretty much constantly engaged in friendly combat. I'm talking weak body shots, Charlie horses, red bellies, that kind of thing. All in good fun, but we were absolutely engaged in combat. One of my fondest memories from my teenage years is visiting my older friends John and Kenny (who were only my friends because they used to babysit me), and Kenny put me into an iron cross and called everyone in to laugh at me and give me a red belly. Honestly, it was a bonding experience.
        mnsc 3y ago
bavell 3y ago
This is so far off the mark I don't even know where to begin...
34679 3y ago
Boys that "act like boys", (throwing rocks, etc) are given Adderall. Parents that refuse end up talking to child services.

nightowl_games 3y ago

> Boys will be boys, no matter what the world does. This seems wildly overstated and naive. Things are rapidly changing. Forget the world, a mother alone has a massive influence on whether a child will engage in the behaviour you are describing. Yes, some children will shine through all odds stacked against them, but to put all your chips into nature over nurture isnt even close to reasonable.

dumpsterdiver 3y ago
> to put all your chips into nature over nurture isnt even close to reasonable It sounds like you're saying that "what we are" is less instrumental than "what we are told to be". We can agree to disagree.

throwaway_45321 3y ago

> Boys will be boys, no matter what the world does. You are saying this based based off of.. what exactly? I disagree with this entirely. The world has a huge effect on what boys do. In a social media world driven by likes, clicks and endless consumption, you have to be very careful about what is said or done as it is easy for something to be take out of context, and magnified for the whole world to see.

dumpsterdiver 3y ago
> You are saying this based based off of.. what exactly? Based on the fact that boys are indeed boys, and hence, they will be boys.

Doxin 3y ago

> Boys will be boys, no matter what the world does. I dunno man. In school it seems that gossiping is more or less accepted where roughhousing is clearly banned. That sure seems to me like the world is trying to repress at least part of "boys will be boys".

qball 3y ago
>In school it seems that gossiping is more or less accepted where roughhousing is clearly banned. In its majestic equality, the law prohibits boy and girl alike from engaging in socialization activities overwhelmingly favored by boys.
- dumpsterdiver 3y ago
  Well... the school prohibits it. The law actually allows for two combatants to engage in mutually agreed combat as long as they don't kill each other. That's completely legal.
  - Doxin 3y ago
    I feel like sticking roughousing under "combat" is part of the problem
    - dumpsterdiver 3y ago
      Maybe I'm an outlier, but I don't think so... during my teenage years my friends and I were pretty much constantly engaged in friendly combat. I'm talking weak body shots, Charlie horses, red bellies, that kind of thing. All in good fun, but we were absolutely engaged in combat. One of my fondest memories from my teenage years is visiting my older friends John and Kenny (who were only my friends because they used to babysit me), and Kenny put me into an iron cross and called everyone in to laugh at me and give me a red belly. Honestly, it was a bonding experience.
      - mnsc 3y ago

bavell 3y ago

This is so far off the mark I don't even know where to begin...

34679 3y ago

Boys that "act like boys", (throwing rocks, etc) are given Adderall. Parents that refuse end up talking to child services.