Couldn't agree more, and I've spent a lot of time looking at this particular strain of culture from both sides and talking to high up figures inside of it. I'm

Couldn't agree more, and I've spent a lot of time looking at this particular strain of culture from both sides and talking to high up figures inside of it. I'm surprised by the commentary here in other threads, and it does make me imagine how much time people have spent investigating this world versus strongly articulating "is-ought" fallacies.