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Its bizarre to see the "I have nothing to hide, so why should I care" defense on the top of Hacker News. Post Scriptum: If you give me six lines written by th

by ep103 3y ago

Its bizarre to see the "I have nothing to hide, so why should I care" defense on the top of Hacker News. Post Scriptum: If you give me six lines written by the hand of the most honest of men, I will find something in them which will hang him. - Cardinal Richelieu You have to move to feel the chains.

voz_ 3y ago
That’s not what I am saying, actually. I think tracking should be illegal. But I don’t live in a fantasy world. My point was that in our real world, where everything already tracks me, who cares?
- nobody9999 3y ago
  >That’s not what I am saying, actually. I think tracking should be illegal. But I don’t live in a fantasy world. My point was that in our real world, where everything already tracks me, who cares? I do. I'm not a secretive person (in fact, should we meet down the pub, I'll probably tell you way more about me than you want to know), but I am a private person. That is to say that I don't hide who I am or what I do/say/think, but I want it to be my choice as to whom I share such information. Or, to be more concise: My business is my business, not anyone else's. Pervasive tracking is incredibly annoying. And while I do some things to protect my privacy (custom android roms, ad/tracker blockers, both local and network-based, disable GPS/location services on my phone, aggressively manage cookies and a raft of other things I either do or don't do to minimize leakage of my life), I have to put up with some tracking (my cellular provider needs to track my phone or they can't connect calls, deliver data, etc.) because I'm not interested in squatting in a lean-to out in the woods somewhere. But that doesn't mean I have to like it or, more to your point, not care about it. Edit: Clarified prose.
- Silhouette 3y ago
  My point was that in our real world, where everything already tracks me, who cares? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_... Also even if tracking you is of no special interest to anyone and you personally do not mind there will still be people who affect you where those things will certainly not be true. You have elected representatives with the power to make laws that can profoundly affect you. There are professionals like doctors and engineers and law enforcement officers whose professional conduct and judgement are matters of public safety. There are investigative journalists who provide important checks on the power of others in our society. There are whistleblowers who might become vital sources for any of the above to do their work based on good information. None of these people should be subject to inappropriate influence and any intrusion into their privacy compromises that.

by ep103 3y ago

voz_ 3y ago

That’s not what I am saying, actually. I think tracking should be illegal. But I don’t live in a fantasy world. My point was that in our real world, where everything already tracks me, who cares?

nobody9999 3y ago
>That’s not what I am saying, actually. I think tracking should be illegal. But I don’t live in a fantasy world. My point was that in our real world, where everything already tracks me, who cares? I do. I'm not a secretive person (in fact, should we meet down the pub, I'll probably tell you way more about me than you want to know), but I am a private person. That is to say that I don't hide who I am or what I do/say/think, but I want it to be my choice as to whom I share such information. Or, to be more concise: My business is my business, not anyone else's. Pervasive tracking is incredibly annoying. And while I do some things to protect my privacy (custom android roms, ad/tracker blockers, both local and network-based, disable GPS/location services on my phone, aggressively manage cookies and a raft of other things I either do or don't do to minimize leakage of my life), I have to put up with some tracking (my cellular provider needs to track my phone or they can't connect calls, deliver data, etc.) because I'm not interested in squatting in a lean-to out in the woods somewhere. But that doesn't mean I have to like it or, more to your point, not care about it. Edit: Clarified prose.
Silhouette 3y ago
My point was that in our real world, where everything already tracks me, who cares? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_... Also even if tracking you is of no special interest to anyone and you personally do not mind there will still be people who affect you where those things will certainly not be true. You have elected representatives with the power to make laws that can profoundly affect you. There are professionals like doctors and engineers and law enforcement officers whose professional conduct and judgement are matters of public safety. There are investigative journalists who provide important checks on the power of others in our society. There are whistleblowers who might become vital sources for any of the above to do their work based on good information. None of these people should be subject to inappropriate influence and any intrusion into their privacy compromises that.