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We can keep debating this all day long, nothing is going to change. The best thing to do is stop using these services. Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Tiktok...

by akudha 3y ago

We can keep debating this all day long, nothing is going to change. The best thing to do is stop using these services. Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Tiktok... We can easily live without them. Our lives might actually be better without them. Why are we spending time debating the ethics of these services? It is like fast food - just avoid. When entities like banks, hospitals, insurance companies etc do shady shit, THAT is a problem. Those are necessary services, social media is not

Lio 3y ago
This is definitely the correct approach. I’m always surprised by just how insidious these private platforms are. Eg I’ve seen signs in a local forest saying “dangerous work” would be announced only on the Forestry England facebook page. Similarly, I’ve seen government bodies try to use WhatsApp as their official communication channel. I’m not sure how publicly funded bodies sign off on exclusively using private platforms for coms but it happens and will probably require legal action to stop.
- akudha 3y ago
  Similarly, I’ve seen government bodies try to use WhatsApp as their official communication channel. There is at least one college that I know of, where every announcement is made on Facebook, and Facebook only. Students are forced to have a FB account. It is just pure laziness. There are some governments (Europe mostly) that are attempting legislation (banning Google Analytics on gov sites, for example). But law is slow to catch up, incomplete and ineffective. This is not a problem that can be solved completely by law.
  - Lio 3y ago
    > It is just pure laziness. You've hit the nail on the head there. There's no great conspiracy here, it's just lazy people using what they know to get the job done. The great shame is that IMHO it's a terrible outcome. I don't want a Facebook account but I still want to be able to take part in society on open platforms.

by akudha 3y ago

Lio 3y ago

This is definitely the correct approach. I’m always surprised by just how insidious these private platforms are. Eg I’ve seen signs in a local forest saying “dangerous work” would be announced only on the Forestry England facebook page. Similarly, I’ve seen government bodies try to use WhatsApp as their official communication channel. I’m not sure how publicly funded bodies sign off on exclusively using private platforms for coms but it happens and will probably require legal action to stop.

akudha 3y ago
Similarly, I’ve seen government bodies try to use WhatsApp as their official communication channel. There is at least one college that I know of, where every announcement is made on Facebook, and Facebook only. Students are forced to have a FB account. It is just pure laziness. There are some governments (Europe mostly) that are attempting legislation (banning Google Analytics on gov sites, for example). But law is slow to catch up, incomplete and ineffective. This is not a problem that can be solved completely by law.
- Lio 3y ago
  > It is just pure laziness. You've hit the nail on the head there. There's no great conspiracy here, it's just lazy people using what they know to get the job done. The great shame is that IMHO it's a terrible outcome. I don't want a Facebook account but I still want to be able to take part in society on open platforms.