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The article does not answer the question. (I don't believe there is a straightforward best answer but the article does not so much as make a conjecture beyond t

by paddw 3y ago

The article does not answer the question. (I don't believe there is a straightforward best answer but the article does not so much as make a conjecture beyond the most obvious prerequisites.)

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comfypotato 3y ago
It promotes higher intensity exercising. If you’re breathing hard, that’s a good sign. (For mental health.)
- pasquinelli 3y ago
  that's not how i understand the term "high intensity." jogging makes me pant, but i wouldn't call it high intensity, because i can do it for twenty minutes. high intensity would be work you can do for only maybe a minute, not twenty, and as a result it won't keep your heart rate elevated very long. so if they're basically saying 30 minutes 5 days a week, that's low intensity exercise.
  - GavinMcG 3y ago
    > high intensity would be work you can do for only maybe a minute, not twenty Actually according to the article, high intensity can be done for twenty minutes. So what you’re calling “low intensity” is actually “high intensity.” (Funny how this works both directions, isn’t it?)
  - EatingWithForks 3y ago
    Low intensity shouldn't involve panting at all, because low intensity exercises are designed for people with specific health issues where anything above slight exercise is dangerous to them. [consider: significant osteoperosis, serious heart disease, etc] Stretching is low intensity exercise. Also, an exercise you can only keep up for 20 minutes at a time is pretty high intensity.
coldtea 3y ago
It's burried in the article, but it's there: exact type doesn't matter, higher intensity / making you breath harder is better, dimminishing returns above 2.5 hours per week.
- wakefulsales 3y ago
  stronger than diminishing returns - negative returns Depression Four reviews42 44 57 58 presented analyses by weekly session duration (68 component RCTs, >5016 participants, online supplemental eFigure 12). The median SMD for ≤150 min/week and >150 min/week was –0.58 (IQR=–0.77 to –0.30) and –0.29 (IQR=–0.40 to –0.07), respectively. Anxiety One review58 provided analyses by weekly session duration (17 component RCTs, online supplemental eFigure 13). The median SMDs for <150 min/week and ≥150 min/week were –1.23 and –0.99, respectively.
  - hinkley 3y ago
    I am inclined to agree with them. Things really started looking up for me when I was doing about 90 minutes of one exercise and 2-3 hours a week of a second. I definitely got the impression that this was working better than when I rode 15-25 hours a week, and there were definite diminishing returns with walking for distance. Not unlike how the first few bites of a candy bar are most of your experience and then at the end you’re mostly just finishing it. After the second or third bite it’s all downhill.
    - c0nsumer 3y ago
      15-25 hours a week? What the heck were you doing? The cumulative fatigue had to be insane, and if you were chasing a goal, it'd be easy for that to get in your head. For me I find ~3 hours a week are what I need to feel good. As things ramp up (like they tend to in the summer) I tend to need those big rides, but if I do have to back off (say, winter) then as long as I don't go below an hour every other day, I'm good.
      - hinkley 3y ago

by paddw 3y ago

The article does not answer the question. (I don't believe there is a straightforward best answer but the article does not so much as make a conjecture beyond the most obvious prerequisites.)

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comfypotato 3y ago

It promotes higher intensity exercising. If you’re breathing hard, that’s a good sign. (For mental health.)

pasquinelli 3y ago
that's not how i understand the term "high intensity." jogging makes me pant, but i wouldn't call it high intensity, because i can do it for twenty minutes. high intensity would be work you can do for only maybe a minute, not twenty, and as a result it won't keep your heart rate elevated very long. so if they're basically saying 30 minutes 5 days a week, that's low intensity exercise.
- GavinMcG 3y ago
  > high intensity would be work you can do for only maybe a minute, not twenty Actually according to the article, high intensity can be done for twenty minutes. So what you’re calling “low intensity” is actually “high intensity.” (Funny how this works both directions, isn’t it?)
- EatingWithForks 3y ago
  Low intensity shouldn't involve panting at all, because low intensity exercises are designed for people with specific health issues where anything above slight exercise is dangerous to them. [consider: significant osteoperosis, serious heart disease, etc] Stretching is low intensity exercise. Also, an exercise you can only keep up for 20 minutes at a time is pretty high intensity.

coldtea 3y ago

It's burried in the article, but it's there: exact type doesn't matter, higher intensity / making you breath harder is better, dimminishing returns above 2.5 hours per week.

wakefulsales 3y ago
stronger than diminishing returns - negative returns Depression Four reviews42 44 57 58 presented analyses by weekly session duration (68 component RCTs, >5016 participants, online supplemental eFigure 12). The median SMD for ≤150 min/week and >150 min/week was –0.58 (IQR=–0.77 to –0.30) and –0.29 (IQR=–0.40 to –0.07), respectively. Anxiety One review58 provided analyses by weekly session duration (17 component RCTs, online supplemental eFigure 13). The median SMDs for <150 min/week and ≥150 min/week were –1.23 and –0.99, respectively.
- hinkley 3y ago
  I am inclined to agree with them. Things really started looking up for me when I was doing about 90 minutes of one exercise and 2-3 hours a week of a second. I definitely got the impression that this was working better than when I rode 15-25 hours a week, and there were definite diminishing returns with walking for distance. Not unlike how the first few bites of a candy bar are most of your experience and then at the end you’re mostly just finishing it. After the second or third bite it’s all downhill.
  - c0nsumer 3y ago
    15-25 hours a week? What the heck were you doing? The cumulative fatigue had to be insane, and if you were chasing a goal, it'd be easy for that to get in your head. For me I find ~3 hours a week are what I need to feel good. As things ramp up (like they tend to in the summer) I tend to need those big rides, but if I do have to back off (say, winter) then as long as I don't go below an hour every other day, I'm good.
    - hinkley 3y ago