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The way I approach that is by any civilization with an existing written corpus going back in time- European/Chinese for example. If the Chinese had knowledge o
by mrkstu 3y ago
The way I approach that is by any civilization with an existing written corpus going back in time- European/Chinese for example.
If the Chinese had knowledge of the Americas they’d have been the ‘discoverers’ in mondernity.
Without written continuity it’s hard to credit discoverers…
- brenns10 3y agoI feel like the term "discoverers" discounts the existing human residents of the Americas who also had written histories: e.g. the Mayans, whose written histories were largely destroyed by Europeans. I get what you mean though: how else are we to know now about what happened then without written records? It is just sad how much has been destroyed. The potential of lost written history is fascinating to me. The Phoenicians of Carthage had boats which were capable of crossing the Atlantic and were known to take journeys well past the straights of Gibraltar, but a lot of their written history has been lost thanks to the Punic wars of Ancient Rome. It would be a fascinating lost episode of history if the Phoenicians "discovered" the Americas well before Vikings or other Europeans did. For all we know, this could have happened but accounts were simply lost to time.
- DropInIn 3y agoThe context has an implicit silent inclusion: Discovered (for the first time by the "Old World"/Known Written Records) It's implicit. Not unlike how we don't discount the extant aboriginals of the Americas being here "first" just because they (generally) aren't actually the descendants of the first human populations that came here (but rather seem to have committed genocide on those people). It's implicit through context.