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>It contradicts even the most basic of common sense It doesn't do that at all. The most obvious example of this is unemployment. When men lose jobs, they are a

>It contradicts even the most basic of common sense It doesn't do that at all. The most obvious example of this is unemployment. When men lose jobs, they are at much higher risk to slide into social isolation, drug use and even suicide. Anti-social behavior among women in those situations is much less common. Young men without perspective likewise are much more likely to turn towards extremism, violence and so on. Most 'incels' or shut-ins are men. Most violent criminals are men, most gang members are men. Men, especially young men are much more vulnerable to exhibit maladjusted behaviors and that's both backed by common sense and data.

xdennis 3y ago
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- ravenstine 3y ago
  > But that's exactly what I'm referring to. It cherry picks some examples to make men look "fragile", "sensitive", and "vulnerable". It also ignores that women, generally speaking, have greater support networks than men. Men in America have generally been expected to handle far more things on their own. Plenty of women I know in their 30s and beyond still ask things of their parents whilst I don't know of nearly as many guys in my cohort who rely on their parents in any way. In a sense, this is all victim blaming. Majority of homeless people are men? I guess they should have been as strong as women! /s
- Barrin92 3y ago
  The polar bear is more vulnerable and sensitive than the gazelle literally, that is why they're almost extinct. You seem to be confused about what people are talking about. Nobody is arguing whether polar bears or big hairy men are muscular and STRONG, we're talking about their resilience in the modern world and how well they have adapted. It is actually a good comparison but not in the way you thought it was. There's nothing cherry picked about this, men do worse these days and are more vulnerable than women on a lot of very substantial metrics. It doesn't get more real and objective than looking at the rate of deaths of despair and the gender disparity there. I don't understand why you apparently perceive this as an attack om men. This inability to acknowledge the vulnerability of men is, as the article points out as well, one of the reasons why there is comparatively little help for men.
- dang 3y ago
  Could you please stop posting to HN in the flamewar style? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for, so we're trying for the opposite. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

xdennis 3y ago

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ravenstine 3y ago
> But that's exactly what I'm referring to. It cherry picks some examples to make men look "fragile", "sensitive", and "vulnerable". It also ignores that women, generally speaking, have greater support networks than men. Men in America have generally been expected to handle far more things on their own. Plenty of women I know in their 30s and beyond still ask things of their parents whilst I don't know of nearly as many guys in my cohort who rely on their parents in any way. In a sense, this is all victim blaming. Majority of homeless people are men? I guess they should have been as strong as women! /s
Barrin92 3y ago
The polar bear is more vulnerable and sensitive than the gazelle literally, that is why they're almost extinct. You seem to be confused about what people are talking about. Nobody is arguing whether polar bears or big hairy men are muscular and STRONG, we're talking about their resilience in the modern world and how well they have adapted. It is actually a good comparison but not in the way you thought it was. There's nothing cherry picked about this, men do worse these days and are more vulnerable than women on a lot of very substantial metrics. It doesn't get more real and objective than looking at the rate of deaths of despair and the gender disparity there. I don't understand why you apparently perceive this as an attack om men. This inability to acknowledge the vulnerability of men is, as the article points out as well, one of the reasons why there is comparatively little help for men.
dang 3y ago
Could you please stop posting to HN in the flamewar style? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for, so we're trying for the opposite. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.