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> their deeper purpose is to humiliate, shame, and objectify women While I understand the desire to stamp-out the use of deepfakes to insert unsuspecting women

> their deeper purpose is to humiliate, shame, and objectify women While I understand the desire to stamp-out the use of deepfakes to insert unsuspecting women into pornographic images and video, I feel at least as much energy should be spent in eliminating (or at least reducing) the harm that comes to women's reputations as a result. The fact that a deepfake can humiliate and shame a woman and even cause her to lose her job and friends exposes a problem in our society that I feel is at least as problematic as that which would cause someone to create the deepfake in the first place.

bheadmaster 3y ago
> The fact that a deepfake can humiliate and shame a woman and even cause her to lose her job and friends exposes a problem in our society that I feel is at least as problematic as that which would cause someone to create the deepfake in the first place. I agree wholeheartedly. There is no reason for naked human body to be considered shameful, regardless of the gender. Reasons for such beliefs are usually based on either keeping up the status quo, or some archaic or religious belief in "dirtiness" of sexuality (except in the restricted case approved by the said tradition/religion).
- Eddy_Viscosity2 3y ago
  They might not be just naked. It's porn on the internet, they could be made to do literally anything in them. Agree with the sentiment, but the reality is much much harsher than just prudishness of society about nudity.
  - bheadmaster 3y ago
    > the reality is much much harsher than just prudishness of society about nudity. So they can be made to touch another naked body in a video? Wow, that's so much worse... \s Sex is nothing to be ashamed of, either. Society should really just move on.
qwery 3y ago
Sexual violence is weaponised to destroy a woman's life. The society allows it. The men that create the (frankly disgusting) deepfakes described exist within the same society. The men can't see why a woman should be humiliated by fake videos. The society allows it.
beej71 3y ago
This might be one of the few actual solutions, given it's impossible to regulate these things out of existence.

bheadmaster 3y ago

> The fact that a deepfake can humiliate and shame a woman and even cause her to lose her job and friends exposes a problem in our society that I feel is at least as problematic as that which would cause someone to create the deepfake in the first place. I agree wholeheartedly. There is no reason for naked human body to be considered shameful, regardless of the gender. Reasons for such beliefs are usually based on either keeping up the status quo, or some archaic or religious belief in "dirtiness" of sexuality (except in the restricted case approved by the said tradition/religion).

Eddy_Viscosity2 3y ago
They might not be just naked. It's porn on the internet, they could be made to do literally anything in them. Agree with the sentiment, but the reality is much much harsher than just prudishness of society about nudity.
- bheadmaster 3y ago
  > the reality is much much harsher than just prudishness of society about nudity. So they can be made to touch another naked body in a video? Wow, that's so much worse... \s Sex is nothing to be ashamed of, either. Society should really just move on.

qwery 3y ago

Sexual violence is weaponised to destroy a woman's life. The society allows it. The men that create the (frankly disgusting) deepfakes described exist within the same society. The men can't see why a woman should be humiliated by fake videos. The society allows it.

beej71 3y ago

This might be one of the few actual solutions, given it's impossible to regulate these things out of existence.